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Old 08-14-2008, 11:05 AM   #1
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You need to distinguish between standards of common decency and so called "free speech". No one has a right to assail other citizens with profanity-laden tirades.
No one has the right to be offended by such statements.
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Old 08-15-2008, 08:11 AM   #2
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No one has the right to be offended by such statements.
Check out the history of legal precedents about this very thing.





Poor, deprived generation.

I feel badly (really) that our youth honestly do not know what it was like in an era of greater respect and more diligent observance of common decency.
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Old 08-15-2008, 08:16 AM   #3
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Check out the history of legal precedents about this very thing.





Poor, deprived generation.

I feel badly (really) that our youth honestly do not know what it was like in an era of greater respect and more diligent observance of common decency.
You're a big reason for that, unless respect and common decency includes going around falsely spouting how superior you are.
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Old 08-15-2008, 09:14 AM   #4
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You're a big reason for that, unless respect and common decency includes going around falsely spouting how superior you are.
I am not superior; but the values of our fathers are.
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Old 08-15-2008, 09:15 AM   #5
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I am not superior; but the values of our fathers are.
You honestly believe this garbage?
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Old 08-15-2008, 09:47 AM   #6
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Check out the history of legal precedents about this very thing.
Please, do tell. I would like to see your precedent with respect to people having the right not to be offended. Or even the right TO be offended.




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Poor, deprived generation.

I feel badly (really) that our youth honestly do not know what it was like in an era of greater respect and more diligent observance of common decency.
So says every generation of the next generation....
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Old 08-15-2008, 10:51 AM   #7
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Heres another story about it from the San Antonio/Houston Chronicle:

Her picture as well:





http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/str...l-mart100.html

LA MARQUE —If all storms had a name, this one would start with the letter F.

As Tropical Storm Edouard closed in on the Texas Gulf Coast last week, a storm of a different kind was brewing inside the sporting goods section of a Wal-Mart store in La Marque. It started with the F-word. And now a 28-year-old single mother must go to court if she wants to fight a ticket for using profanity.

On Aug. 4, as local residents prepared for deteriorating weather conditions, Kathryn “Kristi” Fridge stopped at the Wal-Mart at FM 1764 and Interstate 45 near Houston with her mother and 2-year-old daughter.

Finding the batteries shelf bare, she expressed her displeasure and disbelief to her mother.

“I was like, 'Dang.' I looked at my mom and said, ‘They're all (expletive) gone,'” Fridge recalled.

Suddenly, Capt. Alfred Decker, the La Marque assistant fire marshal, appeared from around the corner, dressed in a fire department uniform.

“He said, ‘You need to watch your mouth,'” Fridge said.

Perplexed by who the man was — his badge said “fire department” — Fridge offered a scant apology.

Fridge walked away, but said the man ordered her to come back. She then protested, telling him she was having a private conversation with her mother. When the man ordered her to come to him and she refused, she said he pulled out his handcuffs.

La Marque Fire Chief Todd Zacherl said Fridge made such a scene in the Wal-Mart that Decker had no choice.

“She cussed him, she cussed everybody. By now, we have a huge group of people looking,” Zacherl said.

Fridge emphatically denied that, saying while she did curse in casual conversation with her mother, she never cursed at Decker.

“She never got nasty with him, she never cussed at him,” said Fridge's mother, Kathryn Rice of Santa Fe.

Decker ordered Fridge to come out to his car because that's where his citation book was stored, Zacherl said. Fridge eventually complied, but admits she used the offending word again when she turned to a crowd of onlookers and yelled, “Can you believe this? He's (expletive) arresting me for saying (expletive)!”

“When I got outside, I saw he was a fire marshal — I saw his car. I said, ‘You're not even a cop!' He said, ‘I can do this,'” Fridge said.

Zacherl said the assistant fire marshal handcuffed Fridge for his own safety because she was being belligerent and because he had to turn his back to get his ticket book and check on the radio if she had any arrest warrants.

Ultimately, Fridge was released and ticketed for disorderly conduct, a Class C misdemeanor. She can pay a fine or appear in court to contest the citation.

State law says the use of abusive, indecent, profane or vulgar language in a public place, which causes an “immediate breach of the peace,” meets the definition of disorderly conduct
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Old 08-15-2008, 11:00 AM   #8
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Heres another story about it from the San Antonio/Houston Chronicle:

Her picture as well:





http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/str...l-mart100.html

LA MARQUE —If all storms had a name, this one would start with the letter F.

As Tropical Storm Edouard closed in on the Texas Gulf Coast last week, a storm of a different kind was brewing inside the sporting goods section of a Wal-Mart store in La Marque. It started with the F-word. And now a 28-year-old single mother must go to court if she wants to fight a ticket for using profanity.

On Aug. 4, as local residents prepared for deteriorating weather conditions, Kathryn “Kristi” Fridge stopped at the Wal-Mart at FM 1764 and Interstate 45 near Houston with her mother and 2-year-old daughter.

Finding the batteries shelf bare, she expressed her displeasure and disbelief to her mother.

“I was like, 'Dang.' I looked at my mom and said, ‘They're all (expletive) gone,'” Fridge recalled.

Suddenly, Capt. Alfred Decker, the La Marque assistant fire marshal, appeared from around the corner, dressed in a fire department uniform.

“He said, ‘You need to watch your mouth,'” Fridge said.

Perplexed by who the man was — his badge said “fire department” — Fridge offered a scant apology.

Fridge walked away, but said the man ordered her to come back. She then protested, telling him she was having a private conversation with her mother. When the man ordered her to come to him and she refused, she said he pulled out his handcuffs.

La Marque Fire Chief Todd Zacherl said Fridge made such a scene in the Wal-Mart that Decker had no choice.

“She cussed him, she cussed everybody. By now, we have a huge group of people looking,” Zacherl said.

Fridge emphatically denied that, saying while she did curse in casual conversation with her mother, she never cursed at Decker.

“She never got nasty with him, she never cussed at him,” said Fridge's mother, Kathryn Rice of Santa Fe.

Decker ordered Fridge to come out to his car because that's where his citation book was stored, Zacherl said. Fridge eventually complied, but admits she used the offending word again when she turned to a crowd of onlookers and yelled, “Can you believe this? He's (expletive) arresting me for saying (expletive)!”

“When I got outside, I saw he was a fire marshal — I saw his car. I said, ‘You're not even a cop!' He said, ‘I can do this,'” Fridge said.

Zacherl said the assistant fire marshal handcuffed Fridge for his own safety because she was being belligerent and because he had to turn his back to get his ticket book and check on the radio if she had any arrest warrants.

Ultimately, Fridge was released and ticketed for disorderly conduct, a Class C misdemeanor. She can pay a fine or appear in court to contest the citation.

State law says the use of abusive, indecent, profane or vulgar language in a public place, which causes an “immediate breach of the peace,” meets the definition of disorderly conduct
Sad.


And where are all those people saying she was cussing up a storm to start it? She was displeased they didn't have batteries.
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Old 08-15-2008, 11:13 AM   #9
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If the woman's account is correct, it sounds pretty fascist to me (of course, the truth is probably somewhere in between).

But if I made some casual comment like that and some douche-hiding-behind-a-badge lept out from behind a blue light special sign and told me to watch my language, honestly, my first reaction would probably be to tell him to go fuck himself.
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Old 08-15-2008, 05:24 PM   #10
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Sad.


And where are all those people saying she was cussing up a storm to start it? She was displeased they didn't have batteries.
Get over it man. That's been a law for a long time. I'll assure you that if you did something like this in public, you could get approached by a law enforcement. And like I been saying on my previous posts, that article pretty much nailed what I explained. She FAILED to follow a little simple order, and when she kept refusing, then the law enforcement has no choice but to pull out the handcuffs. As Herman F**king Edwards would say, "Get over it! It's life!"
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Old 08-16-2008, 12:32 AM   #11
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Get over it man. That's been a law for a long time. I'll assure you that if you did something like this in public, you could get approached by a law enforcement. And like I been saying on my previous posts, that article pretty much nailed what I explained. She FAILED to follow a little simple order, and when she kept refusing, then the law enforcement has no choice but to pull out the handcuffs. As Herman F**king Edwards would say, "Get over it! It's life!"


That's what you got from the article? Are you serious?

She did follow a simple order and went about her day but the marshall called her back. That's when she got testy with him. Apparently, he wouldn't let it go.

And the law enforcement had to pull out the handcuffs for cussing? And cussing after she had stopped and started walking away? And she only said cussed because the batteries were out and he heard from another aisle?



Pass whatever you're smoking.


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Also, just because the law has been around forever doesn't mean it's right. There's tons of laws like that. And this one is not right. Period. Especially in light of the Oregon ruling.
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