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Sure-Oz · 08-15-2008, 10:13 AM

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/new...t=.jsp&c_id=kc

Royals come to terms with Tim Melville
08/15/2008 11:49 AM ET
MLB.com

KANSAS CITY -- The Kansas City Royals today announced they have reached an agreement with fourth-round draft choice Tim Melville. Consistent with team policy, terms of the agreement were not disclosed.

"We are very pleased to announce the signing of Tim Melville. Tim, his family, and advisor Jason Cook remained committed to this process from start to finish," said Deric Ladnier, Royals Senior Director of Scouting. "Tim is a very talented young man and we are excited that we were able to add a player of his caliber to the Royals organization."

Melville is the 2007 Aflac National High School Player of the Year recipient. The 6'5" right-hander from Wentzville, Mo. finished his senior campaign with an 8-1 record, a 2.56 ERA, and 89 strikeouts in 52 innings. As a junior, Melville compiled a 10-1 mark with a 0.89 ERA which helped Holt High School reach the Missouri Class 4-A finals.

We have until 11pm cst to sign Hosmer and Ryan Curl...glad we got Mellville, considered at the 15th slot in the 1st round but dropped due to signability issues.

**DeezNutz** · 08-15-2008, 08:35 PM

I'm sure the Royals moved off Miller and Porcello late b/c they weren't really the targets. Signability was a moot point. I take the Royals' word on this.

**DeezNutz** · 08-15-2008, 08:36 PM

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Not really when you're complaining that we won't sign Hosmer because of David Glass' track record, which is reeruned because we've signed every 1st round pick.

I don't even know how to respond to this. The Royals have always signed their picks. Wow. Umm...ok.

eazyb81 · 08-15-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

A true blue believer. Didn't know these models still existed.

You've cited an extensive history. Care to look at drafts before '05? And as I said, there's question about the Hochevar and Moose selections.

First off, pick an argument and stick with it.

Second, of course Glass had some cheap drafts back in the Baird years. Everyone has noted this, including the man himself, but by all accounts the strategy has changed over the last few years. We never would have signed Moose under Baird, we never would have signed a 4th rounder for $1.25 mill, and we never would have signed Hosmer.

eazyb81 · 08-15-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I don't even know how to respond to this. The Royals have always signed their picks. Wow.

Enlighten me.

Mecca · 08-15-2008, 08:38 PM

That Hochevar pick is going to haunt this organization for years...mark that down.

eazyb81 · 08-15-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I'm sure the Royals moved off Miller and Porcello late b/c they weren't really the targets. Signability was a moot point. I take the Royals' word on this.

So are the other teams that passed on Miller and Porcello "cheap" as well? Is every team "cheap" if they don't draft players and immediately turn around and bend over? Are you 8 years old?

**DeezNutz** · 08-15-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

First off, pick an argument and stick with it.

Second, of course Glass had some cheap drafts back in the Baird years. Everyone has noted this, including the man himself, but by all accounts the strategy has changed over the last few years. We never would have signed Moose under Baird, we never would have signed a 4th rounder for $1.25 mill, and we never would have signed Hosmer.

I haven't started arguing another point, so I don't know what you're talking about. I'm surprised by your faith in management.

It looks like things are going in the right direction. I agree with this, but I'm far from convinced. As I've stated before in this forum, this year's draft marked a change from previous years and, for me, would be the first beyond-a-shadow-of-a-doubt moves that signal that the team is dedicated to winning.

Mecca · 08-15-2008, 08:41 PM

Miller was still a top 10 pick and Porcello fell sure but you know, I think teams look at things stupidly. So he wants 8 million dollars or something teams routinely blow that on journey man middle relievers then act like it's a huge deal for a top prospect to ask for it.

**DeezNutz** · 08-15-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

So are the other teams that passed on Miller and Porcello "cheap" as well? Is every team "cheap" if they don't draft players and immediately turn around and bend over? Are you 8 years old?

Smaller-market teams need to make up shortcomings somewhere. Yes, lots of teams pass on players for reasons of signability. I'm tired of one of these teams being the Royals. True. Blue.

**DeezNutz** · 08-15-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Enlighten me.

The fact that the Royals have "always signed their picks" is not at all relevant to this discussion b/c signability, pretty much since Glass has had major involvement with the team ('93 or so), has been priority #1.

eazyb81 · 08-15-2008, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I haven't started arguing another point, so I don't know what you're talking about. I'm surprised by your faith in management.

Sure you did. You started off saying we shouldn't be confident in signing Hosmer because of Glass' track record. When I reminded you of the many above slot deals we've signed in the past few years, you then said you weren't sold on Moustakas and Hochevar, which has nothing to do with your original point.

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It looks like things are going in the right direction. I agree with this, but I'm far from convinced. As I've stated before in this forum, this year's draft marked a change from previous years and, for me, would be the first beyond-a-shadow-of-a-doubt moves that signal that the team is dedicated to winning.

The MLB is not the NFL - it takes years and years to turn a crap franchise around, especially when it's a small market team. We're doing the right thing by signing young and talented players instead of cheap ones, but it takes years for those guys to develop into MLB stars. Focus on the strategy, not the immediate results.

**DeezNutz** · 08-15-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

we never would have signed Hosmer.

Isn't this the whole point of the discussion? We haven't done this yet. I sincerely hope we do. But we're debating the what-if-we-don't point.

eazyb81 · 08-15-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The fact that the Royals have "always signed their picks" is not at all relevant to this discussion b/c signability, pretty much since Glass has had major involvement with the team ('93 or so), has been priority #1.

Huh?

Your exact quote:

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Of course. Glass's track record indicates that he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

This was in reference to talk about Hosmer signing or not signing. How can you argue with a straight face that the fact we have always signed our 1st round pick under Glass is not relevant in an argument discussing whether or not we will sign this year's 1st round pick?

**DeezNutz** · 08-15-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Focus on the strategy, not the immediate results.

I am, but I also have no trust in the Glass family. I need much more evidence to believe in earnest. Again, the completion of this draft class would go a long way toward doing that.

eazyb81 · 08-15-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Isn't this the whole point of the discussion? We haven't done this yet. I sincerely hope we do. But we're debating the what-if-we-don't point.

I am 100% confident we will, and have been since the beginning. I guess some will continue to fall for the same old tricks from Boras, though.

I hope you'll be around here in about 75 minutes to admit how wrong you were.

08-15-2008, 10:13 AM
Sure-Oz Stay positive, don't give up Join Date: Dec 2001 Casino cash: $1609383	Royals sign 4th rounder Tim Melville http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/new...t=.jsp&c_id=kc Royals come to terms with Tim Melville 08/15/2008 11:49 AM ET MLB.com KANSAS CITY -- The Kansas City Royals today announced they have reached an agreement with fourth-round draft choice Tim Melville. Consistent with team policy, terms of the agreement were not disclosed. "We are very pleased to announce the signing of Tim Melville. Tim, his family, and advisor Jason Cook remained committed to this process from start to finish," said Deric Ladnier, Royals Senior Director of Scouting. "Tim is a very talented young man and we are excited that we were able to add a player of his caliber to the Royals organization." Melville is the 2007 Aflac National High School Player of the Year recipient. The 6'5" right-hander from Wentzville, Mo. finished his senior campaign with an 8-1 record, a 2.56 ERA, and 89 strikeouts in 52 innings. As a junior, Melville compiled a 10-1 mark with a 0.89 ERA which helped Holt High School reach the Missouri Class 4-A finals. We have until 11pm cst to sign Hosmer and Ryan Curl...glad we got Mellville, considered at the 15th slot in the 1st round but dropped due to signability issues.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-742950	That Hochevar pick is going to haunt this organization for years...mark that down.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-742950	Miller was still a top 10 pick and Porcello fell sure but you know, I think teams look at things stupidly. So he wants 8 million dollars or something teams routinely blow that on journey man middle relievers then act like it's a huge deal for a top prospect to ask for it.
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