Posnanski:Croyle is too fragile to be the Chiefs’ answer at quarterback

[Tribal Warfare]

Croyle is too fragile to be the Chiefs’ answer at quarterback

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. | Football is, at heart, a cold-blooded game. It’s easy to forget that because in the NFL, vicious hits are set to music and shoulders ripped from sockets are merely “separated” (leaving open a possibility for a reconciliation), and pain is reduced to those harmless-sounding words, ”questionable,” “doubtful” and “probable.”

In this heartless game, you need a quarterback who can get back up. That’s just a fact. It isn’t fair to blame the quarterback for suffering nasty injuries. It isn’t politically correct. But football isn’t a PC game. Sunday afternoon, the Chiefs were at the New England 5-yard line at the end with a chance to score a touchdown and tie the game, a chance to shock everyone, a chance to stick it in the faces of all those critics who called them the pits, a chance to laugh at all those people who bet the unbeatable New England Patriots to win by more than 15 points.

And the Chiefs’ quarterback of the future, the guy they’re building this whole thing around, the man who needed to be on the field at that key moment — Brodie Croyle — was on the sideline because of a shoulder injury.

In the end, nobody outside Kansas City cared, of course. The Patriots held on, beat the Chiefs 17-10, and the Chiefs showed a few positive signs, the Patriots showed a few cracks, but the only story on anyone’s mind Sunday was that the Patriots’ (and America’s) quarterback Tom Brady hurt his knee.

Some thought it happened on a dirty play by Chiefs safety Bernard Pollard, some thought it was just bad luck (that was the way I saw it), some suspected Brady would be out for the year, some thought he would be back next week, some figured the Patriots would collapse without him, some thought they would be just fine, back and forth, on and on, forever.

But, to be ruthless about it — football is a ruthless game — that’s the Patriots’ problem. To steal Mel Brooks’ line about the difference between tragedy and comedy: Tragedy is your quarterback getting hurt. Comedy is the other guy’s quarterback getting hurt.

The Chiefs’ quarterback, Brodie Croyle, got hurt. Again. This was the third time in seven starts that Croyle got hurt. Three for seven makes for a lousy injury average.

Thing is, Croyle has spent a lifetime getting hurt on football fields. He blew out his knee in high school. He separated his shoulder and got two ribs busted his sophomore year in college, then blew out his other knee his junior year. Last year, in his first home start, he hurt his back against Oakland and missed the next game. He hurt his hand at Detroit trying to make a tackle and couldn’t finish the game.

In the third quarter on Sunday, New England linebacker Adalius Thomas sacked Brodie and drove his right shoulder hard into the turf. Croyle grabbed for his shoulder immediately. He walked gingerly to the sideline, with his right arm dangling on the side. He threw one pass to test the shoulder and quickly shook his head no. He was done. Backup Damon Huard went into the game, threw a touchdown pass, led the Chiefs to the shadow of overtime and, well, you know the rest.

Now the Chiefs have to face up to something very real: The chosen quarterback, Brodie Croyle, cannot stay healthy. It isn’t his fault — this isn’t a toughness question. Everyone says the guy is as tough as a Ford truck. But the harsh reality is that his body, for whatever reason, cannot stand up to the NFL pounding. And you can’t build a football team around a quarterback who cannot stay on the field.

“Maybe he’s just unlucky,” one teammate says.

There’s no maybe about it. Croyle has talent. He has a good arm, and he has a pretty quick release, and he has a presence. That’s what everyone with the Chiefs wants to talk about when discussing Croyle. His abilities. The way he handles the huddle. The throws he can make. That’s great. But those are not the things that get you through in this violent game.

No, what made Brett Favre great wasn’t his arm or his gunslinger attitude, it was that he was able to be there every single week, no matter what kind of pounding he took, no matter how ferociously he was hit, no matter how many times he got blindsided. The same goes for John Elway and Dan Marino and Peyton Manning and, up to Sunday, Tom Brady. The one thing every great quarterback shared is that they started games. And they finished them.

That takes more than toughness, and it takes more than heart. You also need luck, a body that will not break, a mind that can ignore the obvious dangers that are all around.

Here’s a name for you: Greg Cook. Have you heard of him? Bill Walsh, the man who coached Joe Montana, said Greg Cook could have been the greatest quarterback who ever lived. As you know, that did not happen. Cook played one year in the NFL, was chosen Rookie of the Year, but badly hurt his shoulder. He threw only three more passes for the rest of his career. That’s the harshness of the game.

And right now, it looks more and more that Brodie Croyle simply cannot take the NFL pounding. The Chiefs’ young team did show promise Sunday. The defense played a high-energy game, and Turk McBride was often unblockable. The offense looked more organized than the last couple of years, and if Devard Darling could run a little faster or Dwayne Bowe could have made a catch, the game would have gone to overtime.

But in the end, plainly, you need a quarterback you can count on to go anywhere in this league. The Chiefs said they would test Croyle’s shoulder today, see the seriousness of the injury.

“He’s so tough, I’ll bet he will be back sooner than anyone thinks,” Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez says.

Maybe. Nobody questions Croyle’s heart. It’s his shoulder … and knees … and back. In the end, those things matter just as much as the heart.

[SBK]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

In all honesty, Brodie has this year and part of next season.

He'll get another 4-6 games in.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by blueballs

There is also another trend in place
earned or just bad luck
Herm and hurt QBs

I didn't follow the Jets back in the day, but the R2P2 scheme is a quarterback's worst nightmare.

FAX

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by SBK

Our QB is still playing in college.

Oklahoma is looking pretty good this year.

[SBK]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Oklahoma is looking pretty good this year.

There's a few guys that look like they could emerge as very high picks. Give me someone with 60% or higher completion %, and someone that knows how to win.

Even better if it's a guy who's had to carry his team.

[kcxiv]

Herm's QB's get hurt all the time, because of the offensive system he runs. He's so predictable. They knew what the Chiefs were going to do everytime. Hell, everyone on Chiefsplanet knew what was going to happen. It was pathetic.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Croyle has to be able to take a hit like that, but Herm has to put him in a situation to succeed.

[oaklandhater]

when jjchieffan reads this he is going to have a meltdown.

[Mecca]

Or the Ribking guy.....

I hope anyone who said he wasn't injury prone has not a god damn word to say now.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Croyle has to be able to take a hit like that, but Herm has to put him in a situation to succeed.

I'm willing to bet you and I could take that hit and get up.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm willing to bet you and I could take that hit and get up.

The sad thing is, I'm built exactly like Croyle. 6'2", 195 lbs. I don't know if I could take that hit or not.

I do know that I could probably stay in the game if someone stepped on my hand.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The sad thing is, I'm built exactly like Croyle. 6'2", 195 lbs. I don't know if I could take that hit or not.

I think I could take it but I'm a bigger built person, my shoulder build is much bigger.

I played in high school and hit the ground on my shoulder like that numerous times and got up.

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm willing to bet you and I could take that hit and get up.

You'd have to get towed off the field by your hair, Shelly.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I think I could take it but I'm a bigger built person, my shoulder build is much bigger.

I played in high school and hit the ground on my shoulder like that numerous times and got up.

I did too. I got ear-holed one time on a crossing route and went completely parallel to the ground and landed on my shoulder like that and got up, but it wasn't like I was hit by Adalius Thomas.

One of my friends got ridden to the ground and landed like that and separated his shoulder, and he was as tough as a two dollar steak (140 lb high school RB).

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I did too. I got ear-holed one time on a crossing route and went completely parallel to the ground and landed on my shoulder like that and got up, but it wasn't like I was hit by Adalius Thomas.

I got landed on by a dude who was about 300lbs, I'm gonna admit that kinda hurt.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Phobia

You'd have to get towed off the field by your hair, Shelly.

To be perfectly fair, you were the one who said that there's no real difference between Pros and Joes other than the opportunities that the former is afforded.