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Old 09-07-2008, 08:44 PM  
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Gunther's Goalline sell-out
was borderline reeruned. It was third and long from the one foot line; keep everything in front of you and DO NOT let them get a first. A punt from the endzone is a huge win in that situation.

I don't know that it cost us the game, but that drive didn't help.

Other than that, the defense (especially the young D-backs and the D-line) played quite well under Gunther's call.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:52 PM   #31
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The call was good, the execution by McGraw was the problem. Why the **** is McGraw on the field instead of Morgan, anyway?!

Of course another problem might be our crappy DEs but that is actually Carl's fault or Herm, depending who you believe.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:55 PM   #32
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It's plain and simple. Surtain blew the coverage and let Moss run free.

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No, Surtain did his job. It was McGraw who failed to come running and hit Moss so hard his socks would come off and it was our slow-ass DEs who had to stop to get a bus transfer on their way to the QB.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:59 PM   #33
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why is mcintosh in place of herb and mcgraw for morgan
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Old 09-07-2008, 10:06 PM   #34
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No, Surtain did his job. It was McGraw who failed to come running and hit Moss so hard his socks would come off and it was our slow-ass DEs who had to stop to get a bus transfer on their way to the QB.
I think it was both of their faults really. Surtain should have at least slowed Moss up a little. If he had maybe McGraw would have had the time to make it over.

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Old 09-08-2008, 12:02 PM   #35
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it was a perfect pass that was undefendable without a PI.
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:36 PM   #36
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I think it was both of their faults really. Surtain should have at least slowed Moss up a little. If he had maybe McGraw would have had the time to make it over.

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In that situation i dont think the plan is to play press coverage. Its to play inside so he cant do a quick slant and the safety is supposed to be over the top waiting for the streak. McGraw wasnt where he was supposed to be and game 50 yard gain.
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:40 PM   #37
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Why the TO? Stupidest call of the game IMO. I think the Pats go 3-and-out without the TO, and we have the ball at midfield at the worst. I knew when we took the TO it was going to backfire.
The reason for the TO was the wind. KC was trying to kill the clock and get them to punt from their endzone into the wind before they switched sides for the 2nd quarter. Herm was playing a field position game.
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:43 PM   #38
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The second down play should've been called a safety.
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:56 PM   #39
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The second down play should've been called a safety.
The ball broke the plane out of the endzone. Not a safety
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Old 09-08-2008, 01:34 PM   #40
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The ball broke the plane out of the endzone. Not a safety
According to Madden during the Colts/Bears game last night, the entire ball has to get out of the endzone. Considering the runner was backing out of the endzone, I don't believe you can say for certain that the entire ball crossed the goal line.
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Old 09-08-2008, 01:50 PM   #41
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I honestly think the only reason McGraw is on this team is because he's Herms friend.
Just one more reason to boot Herm's ass.
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Old 09-08-2008, 01:59 PM   #42
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Gunther was playing aggressively. That is his strong suit. Are you guys actually going to bitch that the offense was too conservative, and then turn around and bitch because the D played aggressively?
This has been my complaint about his aggressiveness for a long time. He's too predictable and it too often results in giving up a big play. I can't count how many times we've been burned for huge plays on third down blitzes.

If his aggressiveness is his strong suit it's time for a new coordinator, IMO.
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Old 09-08-2008, 02:09 PM   #43
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If Dwayne bowe would've caught an easy touchdown to take it into overtime, brandon flowers wouldn't have ran into the punter, or pat thomas didn't get played like a fool by matt cassel we could have won this game. The call by gunther to blitz on the 1 yard line would have been a great call had mcgraw covered over top like he was supposed to there would have been double coverage on moss deep, and the patriots would have been punting from their endzone. The call was fine.
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Old 09-08-2008, 02:10 PM   #44
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I have a question on this play ...

We called the TO on 3rd down, correct? Herm says that we did that because we wanted them to punt into the wind. My question is, how much time was on the play clock when we called TO? Would the quarter have ended BEFORE the 3rd down snap or AFTER?

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Old 09-08-2008, 02:11 PM   #45
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I'm growing tired of Gunther. I have absolutely no experience in playing or coaching football but right before the play I said to my friend "Watch, they are going to throw deep to Randy Moss." And you all know what happened from there. The fact that Gunther did not have the foresight to see that coming and put double coverage on Moss is horrible. It's amazing how stupid our coaching is on both units on this team. A good opposing coach will often know what we are going to do before we do it.
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