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Old 09-10-2008, 08:46 PM  
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Fire Herm Edwards NOW!!!
I warned you... It was coming. Late but **** it.

Too tired to elaborate, but for ****s sakes, ELIMINATE THIS BASTARD!!!

Til next week...
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P.S. - Why isn't there a FIRE HERM EDWARDS prefix?
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Old 09-13-2008, 08:55 AM   #76
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That wasn't how they were using him in week 1. They were trying to get Charles to the outside. LJ on the other hand was being used as a plow horse ramming his head into a brick wall, but Charles was used to get his speed to the outside.
I remember him running it up the middle at least once. He was pretty successful. I'm just concerned that Herm will run him up the middle. I can hear it now, "Charles is a good football player. Good football players run the ball. And that's OK."
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Old 09-13-2008, 08:58 AM   #77
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I remember him running it up the middle at least once. He was pretty successful. I'm just concerned that Herm will run him up the middle. I can hear it now, "Charles is a good football player. Good football players run the ball. And that's OK."
I absolutely love Charles. I think he can be a Westbrook type back in the future. It seems like he will get plenty of chances to make plays this year even playing behind LJ. I liked how they used Charles week 1 and if they play him more it does make the offense better.
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:00 AM   #78
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That's fair. But I think we have a gamer on our team, and Herm will be too scared to throw a screen pass or something because it isn't a horizontal pass.

For the love of God, I just want to see something creative and God forbid evidence of GAMEPLANNING.

You're right though milkman. LJ looked terribly impatient last week.
LJ looked terribly impatient last year before his injury, as well.

In the end, there really aren't that many plays in his career that you can point to and and be impressed with his patience and vision.
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:00 AM   #79
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He did get a free pass by passing the blame and pointing the finger and he was hardly ever called out by the press in NY for his stupidity and incompotence.

I think what makes him piss people off so much is that he's incompetent and he combines that with arrogance instead of being humble. he really believes he's the reason when you win (because he always talks in ''I''). (and he always talks as ''we'') when the team loses.
Well that's just like.... your opinion man......

The NY media has never given anyone a free pass. Especially someone who deserved criticism.

And coaches are arrogant. That's part of the qualifications. Do you watch other head coach's press conferences often? Because most all of them say some pretty stupid and arrogant shit. Coachspeak should be considered an official language...
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:01 AM   #80
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I remember him running it up the middle at least once. He was pretty successful. I'm just concerned that Herm will run him up the middle. I can hear it now, "Charles is a good football player. Good football players run the ball. And that's OK."
At least three of his five carries were inside the tackle.
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:04 AM   #81
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Well that's just like.... your opinion man......

The NY media has never given anyone a free pass. Especially someone who deserved criticism.

And coaches are arrogant. That's part of the qualifications. Do you watch other head coach's press conferences often? Because most all of them say some pretty stupid and arrogant shit. Coachspeak should be considered an official language...
Yes it is, and that's also your opinion, and I respect that, so we'll have to agree to disagree on Hermy.
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:07 AM   #82
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LJ looked terribly impatient last year before his injury, as well.

In the end, there really aren't that many plays in his career that you can point to and and be impressed with his patience and vision.
I really really wish we would have reconsidered giving LJ a huge extension. I told my old man that back when LJ was holding out last season, and he thought I'd lost my mind. He was a huge LJ fan. After the preseason games this year, the first thing he said to me was "Where the hell did all these good RBs come from? Cause they look better than LJ does. How much are we paying him again?"
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:07 AM   #83
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Yes it is, and that's also your opinion, and I respect that, so we'll have to agree to disagree on Hermy.
I think we all agree that Herm is 100% Dumbass and isnt good for any franchise or young players long term....
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:09 AM   #84
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I really really wish we would have reconsidered giving LJ a huge extension. I told my old man that back when LJ was holding out last season, and he thought I'd lost my mind. He was a huge LJ fan. After the preseason games this year, the first thing he said to me was "Where the hell did all these good RBs come from? Cause they look better than LJ does. How much are we paying him again?"
Agree, It would of been nice to unload LJ for picks instead of signing the MOST easy position to replace on the football field to a monster contract... IF this was 1989 and you still built teams around the RB position then it was a good move. In 2007, it is a bad move. You dont see championship teams spending that kind of jack on a broken down RB with a injury history and a record setting touches year....

I guess that is why we arent a championship team huh?
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:14 AM   #85
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Agree, It would of been nice to unload LJ for picks instead of signing the MOST easy position to replace on the football field to a monster contract... IF this was 1989 and you still built teams around the RB position then it was a good move. In 2007, it is a bad move. You dont see championship teams spending that kind of jack on a broken down RB with a injury history and a record setting touches year....

I guess that is why we arent a championship team huh?
I don't really think that LJ is broken though. In the right environment, he could still tear shit up. He's just vastly overpaid for a job that could be handled equally well if not better by a rookie making much much less.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:29 AM   #86
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I don't really think that LJ is broken though. In the right environment, he could still tear shit up. He's just vastly overpaid for a job that could be handled equally well if not better by a rookie making much much less.
Agree Fishy, Sadly we are an organization/fanbase stuck in the mediocrity of the past...

Until we get fresh management and coaching, we will continue this cycle of below mediocrity at the expense of the "true fan".
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Agree Fishy, Sadly we are an organization/fanbase stuck in the mediocrity of the past...

Until we get fresh management and coaching, we will continue this cycle of below mediocrity at the expense of the "true fan".
And that's the part we don't agree on. I think I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Sadly, the tunnel is still 14 miles long, but I do think we're breaking the cycle that has plagued this franchise for a long time. I have my doubts whether Herm can finish the project, but as long as we're headed in the right direction, I can live with it. The wins might not be there right now, but the culture that's being instilled is positive growth IMO.
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I don't really think that LJ is broken though. In the right environment, he could still tear shit up. He's just vastly overpaid for a job that could be handled equally well if not better by a rookie making much much less.
Even his old self wasn't that good -- you score points by throwing the football, and LJ is horrid in that respect. I'd cut his ass and go with Smith and Charles.
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Even his old self wasn't that good -- you score points by throwing the football, and LJ is horrid in that respect. I'd cut his ass and go with Smith and Charles.
I dont think we should cut him, I would just let Herm continue to end his career..

Let Herm work is buttsex magic, run LJ up the centers ass week in and out. Use him up and toss him to the curb with Carl and Herm in 2 years...
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Even his old self wasn't that good -- you score points by throwing the football, and LJ is horrid in that respect. I'd cut his ass and go with Smith and Charles.
Are you serious? I mean, really serious?
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