Let's put all the QB talk right here

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'll do some overall comparison for you here....

Stafford is also in the SEC playing at Georgia, the conference that is notoriously hard on passers as you mention with Cutler. And comparing Stafford's stats to Cutler's stats at the same time in their careers, they are eerily similar. Cutler's completion percentage through 2 seasons was a stellar 53.8%. He barely hit 7.0 in yards per attempt, and he had a 28:22 TD:INT ratio. Compared to Stafford who has a career completion percentage of 54.5%, 7.0 ypa, 26:23 TD:INT ratio. Palmer, through 2 full seasons, (using the same line) was 55.1/7.18/23:24.

Jay Cutler was at the fringe of 60 both of his years as a starter at Vanderbilt--61% in '04 and 59.1% in '05. Peyton Manning also barely made a 60% completion percentage his senior year at 60.37%. McNabb was at 60.9% his senior year, Eli Manning was at 58%, Palmer was at 58% in 2001 and 54.9% in 2000.

The last part is for people who harp on the completion %.

Stafford got sacked three more times than Bradford last year.
Stat lines for 2007:
Bradford 69.5% completion on 341 attempts, 36 TDs 8 Ints
Stafford 55.7% completion on 348 attempts, 19 TDs 10 Ints

Stafford has been sacked 6 times thusfar this year and Bradford none.
Stat lines for 2008:
Bradford 79% completion on 81 attempts, 12 TDs 2 Ints
Stafford 60.8% completion on 102 attempts, 5 TDs 0 Ints

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Stafford got sacked three more times than Bradford last year.
Stat lines for 2007:
Bradford 69.5% completion on 341 attempts, 36 TDs 8 Ints
Stafford 55.7% completion on 348 attempts, 19 TDs 10 Ints

Stafford has been sacked 6 times thusfar this year and Bradford none.
Stat lines for 2008:
Bradford 79% completion on 81 attempts, 12 TDs 2 Ints
Stafford 60.8% completion on 102 attempts, 5 TDs 0 Ints

I'm not sure what you're saying on the sacks front Oklahoma has a better line....we all know this, Stafford is more mobile, Georgia's LT is out for the season so none of that is surprising.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm not sure what you're saying on the sacks front Oklahoma has a better line....we all know this, Stafford is more mobile, Georgia's LT is out for the season so none of that is surprising.

Bradford ran a 4.64 forty.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Bradford ran a 4.64 forty.

So he's about .08 faster than Stafford? Just from watching them play I'd say Stafford is more mobile.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Mecca

So he's about .08 faster than Stafford? Just from watching them play I'd say Stafford is more mobile.

I'd say Stafford has had to be mobile more often. Not necessarily that he is more mobile.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I'd say Stafford has had to be mobile more often. Not necessarily that he is more mobile.

Isn't saying Stafford is playing with less talent complimenting him? I think it's pretty obvious outside of Moreno/AJ Green Stafford is playing with some really marginal talent...atleast compared to what OU is running out there.

I know people bag on some of Staffords throws and his completion percentage but he has a ton of dropped balls because UGA has just god awful WR's save Green. They just can't separate at all and it really skews his numbers from last year also.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Isn't saying Stafford is playing with less talent complimenting him? I think it's pretty obvious outside of Moreno/AJ Green Stafford is playing with some really marginal talent...atleast compared to what OU is running out there.

I know people bag on some of Staffords throws and his completion percentage but he has a ton of dropped balls because UGA has just god awful WR's save Green. They just can't separate at all and it really skews his numbers from last year also.

Stafford has a worse O-line. Bradford hasn't lost a step after losing Malcolm Kelly. Bradford throws a much better ball. Any time Stafford's receivers have separation they have to make a play on the ball rather than letting it fall in the bread basket and continuing for 6. Oh and I know Georgia drops a lot of balls. I will probably continue watching throughout the season, but I doubt Stafford is going to change my mind.

[SBK]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Isn't saying Stafford is playing with less talent complimenting him? I think it's pretty obvious outside of Moreno/AJ Green Stafford is playing with some really marginal talent...atleast compared to what OU is running out there.

I know people bag on some of Staffords throws and his completion percentage but he has a ton of dropped balls because UGA has just god awful WR's save Green. They just can't separate at all and it really skews his numbers from last year also.

UGA plays in a conservative offense and has 1 stud that catches the ball, a true freshman. They've also lost their starting LT this year to an ACL tear.

I've been watching their games this year since I can't see Iowa State here in Atlanta and Stafford looks great to me. He'll need some coaching, but who doesn't? His upside is insane.

And I'm just quoting you because you're quote is dead on.