NFL Draft Let's put all the QB talk right here - Page 16

Mecca · 09-24-2008, 03:48 AM

Seeing how all the draft threads turn into QB talk lets use this thread as the QB draft thread....I'll start by putting up some videos.

milkman · 09-24-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

I dunno. That would be great. Mecca posted the Top 100 draft prospects a week ago or so.

I think Selvie was listed around 50. I'm sure he'll shoot up over the course of the season and the combine. But ...

1. Stafford
2. Selvie

would be pretty damn fine.

Really, there's going to be a hell of a lot of good players available with the 33rd pick.

Pablo · 09-24-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Really, there's going to be a hell of a lot of good players available with the 33rd pick.

Oh, for sure. It would just be pretty nice to get a guy with a motor like Selvie and move Tamba back to LDE. Selvie/Dorsey/Tank/Tamba.

I could live with that set-up.

milkman · 09-24-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

Oh, for sure. It would just be pretty nice to get a guy with a motor like Selvie and move Tamba back to LDE. Selvie/Dorsey/Tank/Tamba.

I could live with that set-up.

Personally, I htink Turk is going to end up better than Tamba.

He's bigger, stronger, faster and more athletic.
He's just learning, and has more upside.

Tamba will be decent rotational depth.

Pablo · 09-24-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Personally, I htink Turk is going to end up better than Tamba.

He's bigger, stronger, faster and more athletic.
He's just learning, and has more upside.

Tamba will be decent rotational depth.

I could live with that as well.

Nightfyre · 09-24-2008, 01:39 PM

If Selvie fell out of the top 10, I would be inclined to move up and snag him. but he's not likely to.

kepp · 09-24-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If Chase Daniel wants to make it in the NFL I'd tell him to shoot up a bunch of HGH and hope he grows a few inches.

I think I'll send him some traction boots and tell him to go all David Blaine for a few days before the combine.

**Tribal Warfare** · 09-24-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

Stafford has a slightly better arm than Bradford. He has a slightly better build. Bradford is probably the better game manager of the two, and he doesn't make mistakes. As far as mobility...they're both mobile enough to make due in this league. I can't hate on Stafford. He looks a bit rusty at times, but it's college. I expect that. I wouldn't be upset at all with the pick.

And as far as Oher possibly grading out to be the best LT prospect in years...well, we took an LT with our 15th pick. He may have been a G, but we drafted him to play LT, and he's done a pretty damn good job in his first three starts, especially going up against Abraham and Seymour.

Get your best players on the field and if one is graded out as the best at his position you take him, because he's the BPA. KC can really secure the line with Oher in the 1st and Robinson or Herman Johnson in the second round. It's not about "well he's good enough", it's about attaining the best.

SBK · 09-24-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Get your best players on the field and if one is graded out as the best at his position you take him, because he's the BPA. KC can really secure the line with Oher in the 1st and Robinson or Herman Johnson in the second round. It's not about "well he's good enough", it's about attaining the best.

We could have the best LT, LG, C, RG and RT in the history of the game at the same time and with our QB's we'd still stink.

QB>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>O-line

**Tribal Warfare** · 09-24-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK

We could have the best LT, LG, C, RG and RT in the history of the game at the same time and with our QB's we'd still stink.

QB>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>O-line

Without a line it doesn't matter, Hell you could have Manning/Brady here, and they would still fail because the conditions. It's all about availability too, Oher is the BPA while Stafford who people are hyping him up because of his arm, but has major issues concerning decision making. If you read Herm's comments, how the hell can rookie play with a man who's afraid of mistakesand overall development of player, by weathering those mistakes.

SBK · 09-24-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Without a line it doesn't matter, Hell you could have Manning/Brady here, and they would still fail because the conditions. It's all about availability too, Oher is the BPA while Stafford who people are hyping him up because of his arm, but has major issues concerning decision making. If you read Herm's comments, how the hell can rookie play with a man who's afraid of mistakesand overall development of player, by weathering those mistakes.

Herm and Carl will be done by the end of the year. Stafford will be the first pick by the new regime.

**Tribal Warfare** · 09-24-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK

Herm and Carl will be done by the end of the year. Stafford will be the first pick by the new regime.

Really, How do you know this concerning the regime and the slotted pick? If Kunarich is the GM, I'd suspect he'll go for the BPA which would be Oher.

SBK · 09-24-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Really, How do you know this concerning the regime and the slotted pick? If Kunarich is the GM, I'd suspect he'll go for the BPA which would be Oher.

So you're saying the best possible player in the draft would be playing RT for us? That's brilliant use of a #1 overall pick.

**Tribal Warfare** · 09-24-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK

So you're saying the best possible player in the draft would be playing RT for us? That's brilliant use of a #1 overall pick.

Nope Oher's an LT, place Albert back at OG( where he's considered all-world) or RT, then draft Herman Johnson or Duke Robinson in the 2nd round.

Oh Noes!!!!!!! We are stuck with Croyle

SBK · 09-24-2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Nope Oher's an LT, place Albert back at OG( where he's considered all-world) or RT, then draft Herman Johnson or Duke Robinson in the 2nd round.

Oh Noes!!!!!!! We are stuck with Croyle

So taking an OG with the #15 pick, that we traded up for. Again brilliant.

And being stuck with Croyle really means being stuck with Huard and Thigpen.

Pablo · 09-24-2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK

So you're saying the best possible player in the draft would be playing RT for us? That's brilliant use of a #1 overall pick.

No sh*t.

We didn't draft Albert to play G...or RT. He was drafted to be our LT and he's doing surprisingly well for a rookie. You don't always have to take the best player available.

Hell, Crabtree might prove to be the BPA after this season's done. I don't want to take him #1 overall even if he is. We desperately need a QB we can build a team around. I wanted Brodie to be the answer. He got injured. He isn't the answer. We don't need to sign an LT and try to switch Albert around and totally nullify his entire season learning the position because Oher is the BPA. If Stafford is graded high enough, or any other QB that might come out; take them.

Who knows when we'll be in the position to grab a franchise QB again. If we do better than expected next season and don't grab a QB, then we might miss the train altogether and then what?

Wait for one of these spread offense gimmick QB's to come out and draft them and spend two seasons just letting them learn the pro style offense?

How many people would be advocating taking Crabtree if he ended up with like 1,500 yards recieving and 25 TD's?

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