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Old 09-24-2008, 03:48 AM  
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Let's put all the QB talk right here
Seeing how all the draft threads turn into QB talk lets use this thread as the QB draft thread....I'll start by putting up some videos.
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Old 09-24-2008, 04:45 PM   #271
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People are taking this shit way too personally. It's almost like they are defending their own family members from personal attack.

Like I've said earlier, people almost become pot committed to their arguments, and they'll make asinine assumptions and conclusions in order to back them up.

The fact of the matter is that if you are looking at raw physical ability, Matt Stafford has more than Sam Bradford. No one knows if he has the intangibles because they are intangible, they aren't measurable. You haven't been in the huddle with either of them, and you haven't interviewed them.

Bradford may end up being a Tom Brady-like pro. However, he's surrounded by a ton of talent, with three legit NFL lineman blocking for him, including two late first-early second rounders this year.

People forget that Roethlisberger, Matt Ryan, Cutler, Rivers, and Carson Palmer (for his first 2 years) did not have a lot of talent around them. None of them put up all world stats, but they had the raw physical ability, and aside from Rivers, all of them had at least serviceable mechanics (I'm looking at you, Tim Tebow).

If you are that worried about decision making, why did Roethlisberger throw almost 35 picks against MAC competition in college? Stafford doesn't continually lob the ball into double and triple coverage.

Just because a QB has a strong arm doesn't mean he's a gunslinger. It means he has a strong arm. That's about as intelligent as saying Black QB=running threat who should be a WR.
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Old 09-24-2008, 04:47 PM   #272
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Just because a QB has a strong arm doesn't mean he's a gunslinger. It means he has a strong arm. That's about as intelligent as saying Black QB=running threat who should be a WR.
Stafford is very inconsistent when it comes to decision making, one game he looks solid, then on another his WRs either make spectacular catches when the DB is plastered on them, and I don't take shit personally on a message board. Unless someone berates one of my family members.
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Old 09-24-2008, 04:47 PM   #273
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Like I've said earlier, people almost become pot committed to their arguments, and they'll make asinine assumptions and conclusions in order to back them up.
This is true. Let's move this thread to DC where it belongs.
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Old 09-24-2008, 04:56 PM   #274
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Stafford make what looks like bad decisions because he has crap receivers that can't get separation.
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Old 09-24-2008, 04:57 PM   #275
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Stafford is very inconsistent when it comes to decision making, one game he looks solid, then on another his WRs either make spectacular catches when the DB is plastered on them, and I don't take shit personally on a message board. Unless someone berates one of my family members.
Are you referring to the games he's played in this year? Because if so, having 0 INTs with questionable decision making when throwing it into receivers who are plastered across 100 attempts is a pretty lucky streak. I'm not saying it's impossible, but without specific evidence, it's kind of a hard assertion to back up.
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Are you referring to the games he's played in this year? Because if so, having 0 INTs with questionable decision making when throwing it into receivers who are plastered across 100 attempts is a pretty lucky streak. I'm not saying it's impossible, but without specific evidence, it's kind of a hard assertion to back up.
Throwing into crowds where multiple defenders are, he can squeeze in there but in the pros it will get intercepted.
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Throwing into crowds where multiple defenders are, he can squeeze in there but in the pros it will get intercepted.


so, you have no actual criticism, just a hypothetical one?

are you what's his name, that guy obsessed with jake long?
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Throwing into crowds where multiple defenders are, he can squeeze in there but in the pros it will get intercepted.
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so, you have no actual criticism, just a hypothetical one?

are you what's his name, that guy obsessed with jake long?
It's typical TW.
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so, you have no actual criticism, just a hypothetical one?

are you what's his name, that guy obsessed with jake long?
It's something he has to work on, people crucified Croyle in making the same decisions last season. The kid can be good, but needs to be in the right system and right situation. If not he'll be the sacrificial lamb that Brodie is. Bradford on the other hand is as close as a polished QB there is.
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It's something he has to work on, people crucified Croyle in making the same decisions last season. The kid can be good, but needs to be in the right system and right situation. If not he'll be the sacrificial lamb that Brodie is. Bradford on the other hand is as close as a polished QB there is.
People crucify Brodie Croyle because he's more frail and injury prone than 60 year old woman with osteoporosis.
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People crucify Brodie Croyle because he's more frail and injury prone than 60 year old woman with osteoporosis.
While a few, get on him for bad decisions, because he had a habit last year to squeeze the longball in double coverage and got it picked. If a rookie QB is coming in, he has to be very polished, unless the next coach is an offensive genius and knows how to develop talent. It's critical for a team rebuilding to have a QB with impeccable intangibles of accuracy ,defensive progressions, and leadership under ipressure of winning the ball game in a moments notice ( referred as the X or being in the zone)
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I think we should just never draft a QB, because unless the guy is perfect we don't want him right.
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I think we should just never draft a QB, because unless the guy is perfect we don't want him right.
Well, clearly Sam Bradford is perfect.
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