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Old 09-25-2008, 07:37 PM   #1
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The Broncos kind of did a halfass rebuild. Their defense doesn't have much homegrown talent. The offense has a lot more. They'll probably make the playoffs this year but will that defense hold them back long term? Probably.

The way Herm is doing it requires more patience. We're rebuilding both sides of the ball at once and refused to do any more patch jobs with veteran free agents.
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Old 09-25-2008, 07:39 PM   #2
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The way Herm is doing it requires more patience. We're rebuilding both sides of the ball at once and refused to do any more patch jobs with veteran free agents.


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Old 09-25-2008, 07:46 PM   #3
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The Broncos kind of did a halfass rebuild. Their defense doesn't have much homegrown talent. The offense has a lot more. They'll probably make the playoffs this year but will that defense hold them back long term? Probably.

The way Herm is doing it requires more patience. We're rebuilding both sides of the ball at once and refused to do any more patch jobs with veteran free agents.
That's hilarious. We did it without accepting failure as necessary. All our super stars on our offense were taken in a draft where we went 13-3 and were picking toward the bottom of the league. We've drafted a few guys on defense, but the jury is still out on most of them. We'll probably have our defense turned around before your team ever reaches .500.
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We'll probably have our defense turned around before your team ever reaches .500.
NEWSFLASH - Shanahan isn't ever going to turn your defense around. He'll retire before your defense ever cracks the top ten again.
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That's hilarious. We did it without accepting failure as necessary. All our super stars on our offense were taken in a draft where we went 13-3 and were picking toward the bottom of the league. We've drafted a few guys on defense, but the jury is still out on most of them. We'll probably have our defense turned around before your team ever reaches .500.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:05 PM   #6
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The Broncos kind of did a halfass rebuild. Their defense doesn't have much homegrown talent. The offense has a lot more. They'll probably make the playoffs this year but will that defense hold them back long term? Probably.

The way Herm is doing it requires more patience. We're rebuilding both sides of the ball at once and refused to do any more patch jobs with veteran free agents.
Uh huh, whatever helps you sleep at night. With 8 of the 11 starters on the offense being in their 3rd season or younger, Shanahan has the ability to focus both picks and FA dollars on the defense for the foreseeable future, and they've got an offense that will keep them in every game. Could it not work out? Of course. But don't pull the bullshit out that the Chiefs are going about it in a better way. 7-9 looks like it *might* be a rebuilding year under Shanny, after Carl's own comments the other day, who knows what a rebuilding year will look like in the final standings.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:07 PM   #7
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Shanahan has the ability to focus both picks and FA dollars on the defense for the foreseeable future
So who will you guys be signing now? Daryl Gardener or some more Browncos?

Is there a future Jarvis Moss coming out in the draft next year? Maybe another corner like Foxworth? WOW! SHANNY COULD FIND SOME GEMS FOR SURE, NOW!
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:15 PM   #8
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So who will you guys be signing now? Daryl Gardener or some more Browncos?

Is there a future Jarvis Moss coming out in the draft next year? Maybe another corner like Foxworth? WOW! SHANNY COULD FIND SOME GEMS FOR SURE, NOW!
Wow, all that and that's all you can come back with. For someone who loves to write his little essays, you know Denver's set on offense for a long, long time and you can't stand it. The funny part is that Denver's probably set at 5 of their defensive spots (WLB, DT x2, and CB x2), and maybe a 6th with Dumervil. Granted they're absolutely terrible at the other spots, but Denver really isn't as far away on defense as you'd like to wish they were.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:31 PM   #9
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Wow, all that and that's all you can come back with. For someone who loves to write his little essays, you know Denver's set on offense for a long, long time and you can't stand it. The funny part is that Denver's probably set at 5 of their defensive spots (WLB, DT x2, and CB x2), and maybe a 6th with Dumervil. Granted they're absolutely terrible at the other spots, but Denver really isn't as far away on defense as you'd like to wish they were.
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Wow, all that and that's all you can come back with. For someone who loves to write his little essays, you know Denver's set on offense for a long, long time and you can't stand it. The funny part is that Denver's probably set at 5 of their defensive spots (WLB, DT x2, and CB x2), and maybe a 6th with Dumervil. Granted they're absolutely terrible at the other spots, but Denver really isn't as far away on defense as you'd like to wish they were.
You guys are set at defensive tackle?

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Set, no. But we've got some young talent there to build around, to be sure.
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You guys are set at defensive tackle?

Yeah, they are. Try watching a game or two. Teams are not running up the middle on them, they're killing them by running wide. Are they the best tandem in the league? No. But is it a critical need that has to be addressed over LDE, MLB, and both safety spots? Nope.
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