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**Tribal Warfare** · 10-07-2008, 12:44 AM

Croyle to start at QB against Titans
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Brodie Croyle will get another chance to make the Chiefs his team in their next game on Oct. 19 against Tennessee at Arrowhead Stadium. Coach Herm Edwards confirmed Croyle will make his return as the starting quarterback then.

It could be Croyle’s final chance if he can’t stay healthy. As much as anything in a season turned rotten beyond anyone’s imagination, the Chiefs need some stability at quarterback.

If Croyle can’t provide it, the Chiefs will find someone in the offseason who they believe can. So Croyle on Monday didn’t need anyone to tell him how much he needs to avoid injury, for his sake as well as that of his team.

“It’s vital,” he said. “The quarterback has to be out there, has to play. I haven’t been there. Obviously, when I get back, it’s vital for me to stay healthy and vital for me to try to find a way to help this team win.”

The Chiefs fell to 1-4 after Sunday’s 34-0 loss at Carolina. They gained just 127 yards, making it their most futile offensive game in 22 seasons.

Quarterback play is only one reason, but a significant one. The Chiefs counted on Croyle to stabilize the situation, but he separated his shoulder in the season-opening loss at New England.

He missed four games, leaving the spot in the often unsteady hands of Tyler Thigpen and Damon Huard. The Chiefs beat Denver two weeks ago when Larry Johnson rushed for 198 yards but otherwise were dismal offensively in losses to Oakland, Atlanta and the Panthers.

The Chiefs are looking to Croyle to not only give them an offensive boost but also stick around for a while.

“You can’t put it all on him, though,” Edwards said. “We feel he can do some things for us, and it’s good to have him back. They’ve got to put some of it on themselves, though. They can’t just expect him to ride in on a white horse. We’re hoping he can stay healthy and help us win some games. He’s capable of doing that.”

Croyle has neither helped the Chiefs win nor been able to stay healthy. He is 0-7 as their starter and missed time last season because of injuries to his back and throwing hand.

Edwards has said Croyle will start the rest of the season as long as he’s healthy, so his ability to secure the position for the long term might have as much to do with his ability to stay in one piece as playing lights out.

Croyle missed time in college at Alabama because of injuries, so he’s often been asked about whether he’s too brittle to play quarterback. He’s always irritated by the insinuations that he’s not tough enough.

“If it was up to me, I would have tried to play awhile back,” said Croyle, who began throwing in practice last week. “We have a great training staff and great doctors who have been smart about it.

“I won’t be 100 percent. I probably won’t be 100 percent the rest of the year. I’m close enough. It’s just one of those things that ain’t going to go away until you have a couple of months to sit there and rest it.

“It’s not comfortable. I’m not altering my motion, which is the main thing we (didn’t want) to do. It’s football. Everybody plays with pain.

“If I’m healthy, I’m going to go. I just have to make sure that over the next two weeks that everything keeps going the way it’s supposed to be and we don’t have any setbacks. If that’s so, then we’ll be ready to go against Tennessee.”

The Chiefs will practice three times this week before scattering for the weekend, their only one of the season without a game. Offensively, they need to use the time wisely.

Croyle has missed a month, so by now he’s a little bit of a stranger to his teammates. In his absence, the Chiefs not only used Huard and Thigpen, but wide receiver Marques Hagans also took a few snaps at quarterback.

“It’s tough sometimes to get that chemistry when there are all these different quarterbacks,” wide receiver Devard Darling said. “Consistency is the big thing. It’s hard to get things going when the quarterback keeps changing.

“It almost like we’re starting from scratch again. We’ll have Brodie back at quarterback, and the coaches said we’re working on fundamentals this week. It’s kind of like we’re hitting the reset button.”

They can only hope that means Croyle can succeed where Thigpen and Huard consistently couldn’t.

“We just have to get going again,” Croyle said. “We’ve got to get everything rolling and everybody back on the same page. We’re going to be here all week practicing.”

Reerun_KC · 10-07-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Amazing isnt it??

look at the stability that a new QB has given the Atlanta Falcons. Sometimes i question the sanity of this fanbase.....

Carl has drilled into the fanbase for 20 years... People are already talking about going out and getting a "seasoned vet" WTF is a seasoned vet? Did someone sprinkle some Tonys on them or something? Do they smell good?

Seasoned Vet

the fear of winning runs deep through this fanbase, just as Carl, They are scared to take chances to win, Ala bring back Cowher...

More of the same, just dont screw up my home game sundays, I want to feel good when we leave the stadium...

CoMoChief · 10-07-2008, 09:07 AM

**** FIELD POSITION FOOTBALL.......you play to not lose the game!!!!!

Deberg_1990 · 10-07-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Carl has drilled into the fanbase for 20 years... People are already talking about going out and getting a "seasoned vet" WTF is a seasoned vet? Did someone sprinkle some Tonys on them or something? Do they smell good?

Seasoned Vet

the fear of winning runs deep through this fanbase, just as Carl, They are scared to take chances to win, Ala bring back Cowher...

More of the same, just dont screw up my home game sundays, I want to feel good when we leave the stadium...

Yep. I Agree 100%.

Its time for a complete gutting of that entire Stadium.

Reerun_KC · 10-07-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Yep. I Agree 100%.

Its time for a complete gutting of that entire Stadium.

Well they are remodling right now...

Deberg_1990 · 10-07-2008, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Well they are remodling right now...

Then they can take out the trash thats infested that place for 20 years.

Reerun_KC · 10-07-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Then they can take out the trash thats infested that place for 20 years.

This might help Arrowhead...

RINGLEADER · 10-07-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Just to play devil's advocate.

Let's suppose that for whatever small chance exists, Croyle plays reasonably well the rest of the season and stays injury free...

I still think we should look for another QB, but I wonder how much of the fanbase would object to us looking for a new QB because Croyle had finally "gotten it together".

Agree. Croyle is not the answer. Trade for a vet, draft a QB who can learn for a couple years, and hope that one/both of them pans out.

Micjones · 10-07-2008, 10:50 AM

Unless the Chiefs plan to run the ball 45 times next Sunday...
We had better keep the cart ready for Croyle. That Titans defense is ravenous.

Reerun_KC · 10-07-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Trade for a vet, draft a QB who can learn for a couple years, and hope that one/both of them pans out.

Yeah cause that has worked out so far for the last 20 years... 3 playoff wins (Thanks Joe without you Marty would never won either of those games) to show for it...

Just say no to the 90's and the retred vet...

Draft a QB and build around them, with a new coaching staff and GM of course.

ChiefsCountry · 10-07-2008, 10:56 AM

Croyle played pretty well against Tennessee last year.

Micjones · 10-07-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Croyle played pretty well against Tennessee last year.

He did?

He threw two picks that day, completed just 58% of his passes, and completed 25 passes for a scant 217 passing yards (an average of 5 yards per completion).

Reerun_KC · 10-07-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

He did?

He threw two picks that day, completed just 58% of his passes, and completed 25 passes for a scant 217 passing yards (an average of 5 yards per completion).

Better than what Downfield BigDillo did last week...

You know " the best chance to win now "

Micjones · 10-07-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Better than what Downfield BigDillo did last week...

You know " the best chance to win now "

Comparatively yes, but that isn't saying much.
Hell I could've come up with a better game on Sunday than Huard did.

Thing is... I can be honest about it.
Huard played a HORRIBLE game on Sunday.
And I've said time and again we should already be looking for a new QBOTF to replace ALL of the trash we currently have at the position this year.

The sooner the Croyle crusaders admit that he's not the answer either...the better.

Reerun_KC · 10-07-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Comparatively yes, but that isn't saying much.
Hell I could've come up with a better game on Sunday than Huard did.

Thing is... I can be honest about it.
Huard played a HORRIBLE game on Sunday.
And I've said time and again we should already be looking for a new QBOTF to replace ALL of the trash we currently have at the position this year.

The sooner the Croyle crusaders admit that he's not the answer either...the better.

Everyone knows he is not the answer, he is the best we have now, which isnt saying much... But our coaching staff is responsible for all 3 of these guys on the roster.

We need a QBOTF badly, but first we need a coaching staff that can develop a QBOTF.

I would rather see Croyle/Thigpen play the rest of this year, win or lose, then to trott Huard back out there. Huard sure the hell isnt helping the development of this team. And sooner the homers realized and admit this, the better.....

Long Duk Dong · 10-07-2008, 11:15 AM

Sounds good...go Croyle....could be a long day. Titans have a good defense.

10-07-2008, 12:44 AM
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2967187	Teicher: Croyle to start at QB against Titans Croyle to start at QB against Titans By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Brodie Croyle will get another chance to make the Chiefs his team in their next game on Oct. 19 against Tennessee at Arrowhead Stadium. Coach Herm Edwards confirmed Croyle will make his return as the starting quarterback then. It could be Croyle’s final chance if he can’t stay healthy. As much as anything in a season turned rotten beyond anyone’s imagination, the Chiefs need some stability at quarterback. If Croyle can’t provide it, the Chiefs will find someone in the offseason who they believe can. So Croyle on Monday didn’t need anyone to tell him how much he needs to avoid injury, for his sake as well as that of his team. “It’s vital,” he said. “The quarterback has to be out there, has to play. I haven’t been there. Obviously, when I get back, it’s vital for me to stay healthy and vital for me to try to find a way to help this team win.” The Chiefs fell to 1-4 after Sunday’s 34-0 loss at Carolina. They gained just 127 yards, making it their most futile offensive game in 22 seasons. Quarterback play is only one reason, but a significant one. The Chiefs counted on Croyle to stabilize the situation, but he separated his shoulder in the season-opening loss at New England. He missed four games, leaving the spot in the often unsteady hands of Tyler Thigpen and Damon Huard. The Chiefs beat Denver two weeks ago when Larry Johnson rushed for 198 yards but otherwise were dismal offensively in losses to Oakland, Atlanta and the Panthers. The Chiefs are looking to Croyle to not only give them an offensive boost but also stick around for a while. “You can’t put it all on him, though,” Edwards said. “We feel he can do some things for us, and it’s good to have him back. They’ve got to put some of it on themselves, though. They can’t just expect him to ride in on a white horse. We’re hoping he can stay healthy and help us win some games. He’s capable of doing that.” Croyle has neither helped the Chiefs win nor been able to stay healthy. He is 0-7 as their starter and missed time last season because of injuries to his back and throwing hand. Edwards has said Croyle will start the rest of the season as long as he’s healthy, so his ability to secure the position for the long term might have as much to do with his ability to stay in one piece as playing lights out. Croyle missed time in college at Alabama because of injuries, so he’s often been asked about whether he’s too brittle to play quarterback. He’s always irritated by the insinuations that he’s not tough enough. “If it was up to me, I would have tried to play awhile back,” said Croyle, who began throwing in practice last week. “We have a great training staff and great doctors who have been smart about it. “I won’t be 100 percent. I probably won’t be 100 percent the rest of the year. I’m close enough. It’s just one of those things that ain’t going to go away until you have a couple of months to sit there and rest it. “It’s not comfortable. I’m not altering my motion, which is the main thing we (didn’t want) to do. It’s football. Everybody plays with pain. “If I’m healthy, I’m going to go. I just have to make sure that over the next two weeks that everything keeps going the way it’s supposed to be and we don’t have any setbacks. If that’s so, then we’ll be ready to go against Tennessee.” The Chiefs will practice three times this week before scattering for the weekend, their only one of the season without a game. Offensively, they need to use the time wisely. Croyle has missed a month, so by now he’s a little bit of a stranger to his teammates. In his absence, the Chiefs not only used Huard and Thigpen, but wide receiver Marques Hagans also took a few snaps at quarterback. “It’s tough sometimes to get that chemistry when there are all these different quarterbacks,” wide receiver Devard Darling said. “Consistency is the big thing. It’s hard to get things going when the quarterback keeps changing. “It almost like we’re starting from scratch again. We’ll have Brodie back at quarterback, and the coaches said we’re working on fundamentals this week. It’s kind of like we’re hitting the reset button.” They can only hope that means Croyle can succeed where Thigpen and Huard consistently couldn’t. “We just have to get going again,” Croyle said. “We’ve got to get everything rolling and everybody back on the same page. We’re going to be here all week practicing.”
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