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Old 10-10-2008, 03:11 PM   #1
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And I think this is where we might disagree. What's the value of a once great, now very, very good player who has 2-3 years left on a terrible ****ing team?

IMO, this team would be best served in the long run with receiving a 3rd. Again, this assumes you don't **** up the pick, and we all know this score...

Any PR hit will be neatly resolved when Carl is shown the door in a couple of months.
He's worth a lot more to the Chiefs than he is to anybody else. They're basically saying Gonzalez=Shockey, which is a goddamn joke.
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:17 PM   #2
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He's worth a lot more to the Chiefs than he is to anybody else. They're basically saying Gonzalez=Shockey, which is a goddamn joke.
Sentimentally, yeah, he's worth more to us than anyone else.

But he's physically worth WAY more to a team that could very realistically be hoisting their 2nd straight Lombardi Trophy come February 2009.

You can't give him away, but if someone makes a solid offer, it's what's best for the future of the franchise, IMO.

What has a better chance of happening:

a) Tony Gonzalez helping this team win a Super Bowl in the next 2-3 years?

b) The draft pick we received as compensation helping this team win a Super Bowl in the next 5-10 years?

I know, both are longshots. But option A has ZERO chance of happening.
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:18 PM   #3
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He's worth a lot more to the Chiefs than he is to anybody else. They're basically saying Gonzalez=Shockey, which is a goddamn joke.
Worth in what sense?

From a wins and losses perspective, I don't think he makes a damn bit of difference. This team sucks. If it's 4-12 with Gonzo or 2-14 without him, I'd take the latter because it means we're closer to getting rid of the clowns in charge AND we're getting (or should be getting) better players in the draft.
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:20 PM   #4
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This is one of the few times where I'd support a deal even if we don't necessarily get fair market value. And that's purely because Tony has put in the work and deserves a chance to play for a winner.

Now the more we could gash a team of draft picks the better but I'm in support of the deal.
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:22 PM   #5
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Worth in what sense?

From a wins and losses perspective, I don't think he makes a damn bit of difference. This team sucks. If it's 4-12 with Gonzo or 2-14 without him, I'd take the latter because it means we're closer to getting rid of the clowns in charge AND we're getting (or should be getting) better players in the draft.
Well, I'm not really into playing for draft position. If you are, I guess that's okay. Croyle, or whoever the Chiefs draft at QB next year won't be thanking Carl for this deal.
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:24 PM   #6
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Well, I'm not really into playing for draft position. If you are, I guess that's okay. Croyle, or whoever the Chiefs draft at QB next year won't be thanking Carl for this deal.
All I'm talking about is what's best for the franchise in the long term. I want to win as much as anyone, but this team is just not set to compete right now, for a number of different reasons.
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