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Old 10-10-2008, 02:21 PM  
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Tony Gonzalez Trade Talks?
I just stepped out to lunch and heard a 610 report that the trade talks for Tony Gonzalez are pretty serious. It was said that he could be moved to New York as early as today?

Does anyone have more information about this?
I was only in the car a short time.
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Old 10-10-2008, 04:55 PM   #136
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Old 10-10-2008, 04:56 PM   #137
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We should get atleast a 2nd rounder, the guy can still play, he has no QB to get him teh ball. His skills haven't diminished that bad
IF it is to a Super Bowl contender it better be their 1st.. The giants would probably net us 28-32nd in the 1st round..
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Old 10-10-2008, 04:59 PM   #138
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Exactly.

Honestly? As much as I'm so glad we've had him, I've felt for a while now that Tony is in large part why we haven't ever been able to develop a strong receiving core.

With Tony gone, outside of D Bowe the QBs will have no other choice but to throw the ball over to the other side where I'll bet some one emerges.

Anyways, that's besides the point. Tony's value will never again be higher than it is now. This team isn't going anywhere. It makes sense to deal him.
Really?? I thought we do not throw to those guys because they have always sucked ass, run the wrong routes, bad hands or no separation..
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:00 PM   #139
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The fact that they're even shopping him tells you all you need to know about what they think of Croyle.
If they thought Croyle could develop into a quality starting QB they'd want Tony there for him to throw to this year. They're pretty much done evaulating him.
This tells me they've given up on Croyle, they don't care what happens to him this year, if he keeps getting the snot kicked out of him that's fine. They're trying to accumulate as many draft picks as they can in case they like a QB and want to move up to get him.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:01 PM   #140
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The fact that they're even shopping him tells you all you need to know about what they think of Croyle.
If they thought Croyle could develop into a quality starting QB they'd want Tony there for him to throw to this year. They're pretty much done evaulating him.
This tells me they've given up on Croyle, they don't care what happens to him this year, if he keeps getting the snot kicked out of him that's fine. They're trying to accumulate as many draft picks as they can in case they like a QB and want to move up to get him.
Really? They are shopping him?

Looks to me like they are TAKING calls, not making them...
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:05 PM   #141
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Yeah, they're sitting by and waiting for the phone to ring. That's PR. If he wasn't being made available nobdoy would be calling.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:08 PM   #142
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:12 PM   #143
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TG has held back the development of our WRs?

Please remove the neuron inhibitor prior to posting.

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I think you're oversimplifying.

Having such an uber-productive Tight End, in my humble opinion, has made having reliable #2's and #3's less important to Chiefs Brass. He's been like a #1 so drafting or signing a big-time FA Receiver wasn't as vital to the success of our offenses over the years.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:13 PM   #144
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Yeah, they're sitting by and waiting for the phone to ring. That's PR. If he wasn't being made available nobdoy would be calling.
If he played for a good team, I'd agree with you.

No one would be calling, because it makes no sense to move him.

Are you not seeing the connection between all these players that are rumored to be dealt?

Gonzalez, Roy Williams, TJ, Leonard Little.

All play on terrible teams.



Christ, the same rule applies even in fantasy football.

The guy with the strong team is trying to rape the weak team by offering depth for a superstar - knowing the guy is desperate - and the weak owner knowing the trade would be good for him long term - he almost has to take it.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:14 PM   #145
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I can't believe some of you guys can be so cavalier about trading Gonzo. Other than DT, he's the best player we've had in the last 40 years. And now, because the franchise has screwed things to such an extent, he'll retire in a different uniform. If this isn't justification for a complete fan revolt, I don't know what is.

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Old 10-10-2008, 05:20 PM   #146
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I think you're oversimplifying.

Having such an uber-productive Tight End, in my humble opinion, has made having reliable #2's and #3's less important to Chiefs Brass. He's been like a #1 so drafting or signing a big-time FA Receiver wasn't as vital to the success of our offenses over the years.
Ah. I can see that point, Mr. Micjones. I thought you meant Gonzo held back our WR corps "developmentally". My oopsies if I misinterpreted your intent.

If your post was solely in regard to drafting, I have to agree with you.

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Old 10-10-2008, 05:21 PM   #147
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I hope it's true. Tony deserves better than to end his career playing for these ****ing reeruns. And we could certainly whatever picks we get for him.
IMHO...It's a win/win for everyone involved.
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Even if it is the other team initiating the call, the impression I get is that the Chiefs are at the minumum, interested. Assuming that (which I do, that's my opinion- you can differ on that) the Chiefs aren't worried about TG being there for Croyle. If they're not worried about him being there for Croyle then they're not really worried about this alleged "evaluation" they're doing.
If they really wanted to see what he could do, and they really believed he was good they'd want TG there.
I think they've given up on him for their future plans (other than maybe a long term backup).
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I can't believe some of you guys can be so cavalier about trading Gonzo. Other than DT, he's the best player we've had in the last 40 years. And now, because the franchise has screwed things to such an extent, he'll retire in a different uniform. If this isn't justification for a complete fan revolt, I don't know what is.

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It seems to happen so often, Mr. Fax, that I'm indifferent to the retiring in a different jersey thing. If Montana can wear #19, I'd say Gonzo, maybe the best TE in history, could wear a blue #84, or whatever.

He'll go into the Hall as a Chief. At least I'd hope...not doing this would be completely goofed up.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:27 PM   #150
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I can't believe some of you guys can be so cavalier about trading Gonzo. Other than DT, he's the best player we've had in the last 40 years. And now, because the franchise has screwed things to such an extent, he'll retire in a different uniform. If this isn't justification for a complete fan revolt, I don't know what is.

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The idea of it is definitely disheartening. To say the very least.
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