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Old 10-11-2008, 08:35 AM   #1
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This is the problem.

People in KC overvalue the TE position because of Tony.

But the fact is, the TE position is one of the least valuable positions on a football team.

If I'm the Chiefs GM, I would want at least a 2nd rounder for Tony.
If I'm the GM of a team attempting to trade for Tony, I'd offer a 4th.

You'd hope they would compromise and settle on a 3rd, but as the GM of another team, that's is the best offer you'd ever get.
Gonzalez is not worth less than Jeremy Shockey. No sir.
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Old 10-11-2008, 08:44 AM   #2
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Gonzalez is not worth less than Jeremy Shockey. No sir.
I don't like Shockey, he can't stay healthy.

That being said, there's no way in hell I'm trading away the future for a guy that has 3 years of productivity left.

But then, I'm one of the very few that hated the trade we made to get Montana.
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:18 AM   #3
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That being said, there's no way in hell I'm trading away the future for a guy that has 3 years of productivity left.
If the trade can enhance your position to win a Superbowl in those three years you do it. The Giants won the SB last year and are having a great year so far. If they think that making a move for a proven TE can ensure that get back then they make the deal. Having TG on the Giants makes them much tougher to beat IMO.
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:25 AM   #4
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If the trade can enhance your position to win a Superbowl in those three years you do it. The Giants won the SB last year and are having a great year so far. If they think that making a move for a proven TE can ensure that get back then they make the deal. Having TG on the Giants makes them much tougher to beat IMO.
We'll never agree.

Giants won one without a star TE, and look better this year.

You don't trade away the future for a 3 year player, especially a TE.
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:46 AM   #5
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We'll never agree.

Giants won one without a star TE, and look better this year.

You don't trade away the future for a 3 year player, especially a TE.
The Giants have the extra draft choices to do it, so it certainly won't hurt them. Especially if Gonzalez helps them win at least one more Super Bowl (which would seem to be a certainty if he's traded).
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:48 AM   #6
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The Giants have the extra draft choices to do it, so it certainly won't hurt them. Especially if Gonzalez helps them win at least one more Super Bowl (which would seem to be a certainty if he's traded).
Wouldn't those extra draft choices be of more benefit to the Giants if they were used to fill holes, instead of using them for a luxury item?

Like Milkman said, the Giants won last year with Kevin Boss at TE.

They don't NEED Gonzalez to win a SB.
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:51 AM   #7
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The Giants have the extra draft choices to do it, so it certainly won't hurt them. Especially if Gonzalez helps them win at least one more Super Bowl (which would seem to be a certainty if he's traded).
The Giants would be crazy to give up more than a third for Tony, but if they offered that 2nd and fifthas has been suggested by Glazer, I'd be all over that like a pig on shit.
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Old 10-11-2008, 12:16 PM   #8
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The Giants would be crazy to give up more than a third for Tony, but if they offered that 2nd and fifthas has been suggested by Glazer, I'd be all over that like a pig on shit.
Why?

If the Saints gave up a 2nd & a 5th for an injured Jeremy Shockey (who's nowhere near as talented at Gonzalez), why would they be "crazy"?

I don't get that logic at all.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:24 AM   #9
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Gonzalez is not worth less than Jeremy Shockey. No sir.
I agree. Position my ass, he is an NFL superstar.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:29 AM   #10
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I agree. Position my ass, he is an NFL superstar.
Tony is a star, no doubt, but that doesn't change the fact that TE is one of the lowest value positions on the football field.
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