Royals Hire New Position Coaches

[CarolinaChiefz]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

We go through positional coaches like a hot knife through butter.....Jesus.

at some point the players have to be held accountable.

Yes, but that would require spending real money. Not two-first-round-picks money. REAL money. Free agent & internal player retention money (see Beltran, Dye, and hopefully Greinke, with different results).

The kind of money that, despite Jackson county ponying up $250M (more ?) in a recession, the Glass family has yet to commit to the product on the field.

Apparently, in a recent questionnaire about improving fans' experience at the K, several options were listed. Noticeably absent? Better players/better team. Reason? It's cheaper to buy another hot dog stand, miniaturized field for 4-year-olds, or set of toilets than it is a power-hitting corner outfielder, another frontline starter, or anyone else who isn't Mark Teahen, Ross Gload or ....gulp....TPJ.

This is Missouri. SHOW ME.

[triple]

Originally Posted by CarolinaChiefz

Yes, but that would require spending real money. Not two-first-round-picks money. REAL money. Free agent & internal player retention money (see Beltran, Dye, and hopefully Greinke, with different results).

The kind of money that, despite Jackson county ponying up $250M (more ?) in a recession, the Glass family has yet to commit to the product on the field.

Apparently, in a recent questionnaire about improving fans' experience at the K, several options were listed. Noticeably absent? Better players/better team. Reason? It's cheaper to buy another hot dog stand, miniaturized field for 4-year-olds, or set of toilets than it is a power-hitting corner outfielder, another frontline starter, or anyone else who isn't Mark Teahen, Ross Gload or ....gulp....TPJ.

This is Missouri. SHOW ME.

kill yourself

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by CarolinaChiefz

Yes, but that would require spending real money. Not two-first-round-picks money. REAL money. Free agent & internal player retention money (see Beltran, Dye, and hopefully Greinke, with different results).

The kind of money that, despite Jackson county ponying up $250M (more ?) in a recession, the Glass family has yet to commit to the product on the field.

Apparently, in a recent questionnaire about improving fans' experience at the K, several options were listed. Noticeably absent? Better players/better team. Reason? It's cheaper to buy another hot dog stand, miniaturized field for 4-year-olds, or set of toilets than it is a power-hitting corner outfielder, another frontline starter, or anyone else who isn't Mark Teahen, Ross Gload or ....gulp....TPJ.

This is Missouri. SHOW ME.

There's no one on this board who has been more critical of the Glass family than me. That said, they spent real money in the draft--more than any other team if I'm remembering correctly--and they've been active in the off-season the last two years.

Let's see what happens this winter. This past draft gave me reason to be hopeful, and, as others well know, I was highly critical leading into it.

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by CarolinaChiefz

Yes, but that would require spending real money. Not two-first-round-picks money. REAL money. Free agent & internal player retention money (see Beltran, Dye, and hopefully Greinke, with different results).

The kind of money that, despite Jackson county ponying up $250M (more ?) in a recession, the Glass family has yet to commit to the product on the field.

Apparently, in a recent questionnaire about improving fans' experience at the K, several options were listed. Noticeably absent? Better players/better team. Reason? It's cheaper to buy another hot dog stand, miniaturized field for 4-year-olds, or set of toilets than it is a power-hitting corner outfielder, another frontline starter, or anyone else who isn't Mark Teahen, Ross Gload or ....gulp....TPJ.

This is Missouri. SHOW ME.

We spent more on this past year's draft than any other team in baseball.

[CarolinaChiefz]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

We spent more on this past year's draft than any other team in baseball.

Right....and how many years has David Glass been in charge?

Look, I'm glad he opened his checkbook for the draft. It's a step in the right direction. But this franchise has been SO poorly run for soooo long (and again...he's been running it, no?) that it's going to take more than a draft to get this team back to where it could/should be, especially in light of the commitment the community has made to it.

You can boil down what I'm saying to this: the Glass family has yet to be reciprocal in its spending on this franchise to what the community has been towards it. One draft...the kind they should have been having ALL ALONG (if you aren't going to spend in the FA market, you freakin' well better spend in scouting development; the R's did NEITHER) is what it is:

One step in the right direction. About 50 more are needed.

SHOW. ME.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by CarolinaChiefz

Right....and how many years has David Glass been in charge?

Look, I'm glad he opened his checkbook for the draft. It's a step in the right direction. But this franchise has been SO poorly run for soooo long (and again...he's been running it, no?) that it's going to take more than a draft to get this team back to where it could/should be, especially in light of the commitment the community has made to it.

You can boil down what I'm saying to this: the Glass family has yet to be reciprocal in its spending on this franchise to what the community has been towards it. One draft...the kind they should have been having ALL ALONG (if you aren't going to spend in the FA market, you freakin' well better spend in scouting development; the R's did NEITHER) is what it is:

One step in the right direction. About 50 more are needed.

KILL. ME.

FYP

[triple]

Originally Posted by CarolinaChiefz

Right....and how many years has David Glass been in charge?

Look, I'm glad he opened his checkbook for the draft. It's a step in the right direction. But this franchise has been SO poorly run for soooo long (and again...he's been running it, no?) that it's going to take more than a draft to get this team back to where it could/should be, especially in light of the commitment the community has made to it.

You can boil down what I'm saying to this: the Glass family has yet to be reciprocal in its spending on this franchise to what the community has been towards it. One draft...the kind they should have been having ALL ALONG (if you aren't going to spend in the FA market, you freakin' well better spend in scouting development; the R's did NEITHER) is what it is:

One step in the right direction. About 50 more are needed.

SHOW. ME.

most of the people who know little about baseball to say things like this don't come out anyway. but it's good to know the fairweather fans are still restless

[CarolinaChiefz]

Originally Posted by triple

most of the people who know little about baseball to say things like this don't come out anyway. but it's good to know the fairweather fans are still restless

First off, there's no such thing as a "fair weather" Royals fan. When you haven't won anything in 23 years, and you still have the energy to even care, that's the very definition of not being "fair weather".

If you'd like to compare baseball knowledge, that's another topic. But the simple fact is, this team has been not just bad, but historically bad for most of the past 10 years, and the owner finally doing what he should have been doing all along for ONE year doesn't mask this fact.

Do you work for the Royals? There seems to be an elevated sense of hostility in even discussing this...especially about a franchise that's been less successful the past 20 years than the LA Clippers, the previous benchmark for pro sports futility.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by CarolinaChiefz

First off, there's no such thing as a "fair weather" Royals fan. When you haven't won anything in 23 years, and you still have the energy to even care, that's the very definition of not being "fair weather".

If you'd like to compare baseball knowledge, that's another topic. But the simple fact is, this team has been not just bad, but historically bad for most of the past 10 years, and the owner finally doing what he should have been doing all along for ONE year doesn't mask this fact.

Do you work for the Royals? There seems to be an elevated sense of hostility in even discussing this...especially about a franchise that's been less successful the past 20 years than the LA Clippers, the previous benchmark for pro sports futility.

No argument with this. Defending Glass's past "approach" would be a joke. But continuing to bitch about it is equally futile.

Things seem to be going in the right direction now, so get over it.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by CarolinaChiefz

First off, there's no such thing as a "fair weather" Royals fan. When you haven't won anything in 23 years, and you still have the energy to even care, that's the very definition of not being "fair weather".

If you'd like to compare baseball knowledge, that's another topic. But the simple fact is, this team has been not just bad, but historically bad for most of the past 10 years, and the owner finally doing what he should have been doing all along for ONE year doesn't mask this fact.

Do you work for the Royals? There seems to be an elevated sense of hostility in even discussing this...especially about a franchise that's been less successful the past 20 years than the LA Clippers, the previous benchmark for pro sports futility.

If you cared you'd know we'd spent money the past three seasons, signed guys like Meche and Guillen, had the biggest offer on the table for Kuroda but he turned us down, had the biggest offer on the table for Torii Hunter until the Angels swept in at the last minute and one-upped us. And we will probably once again be big players in free agency.

We've spent as much money in the draft as anyone the past few seasons, not just one. We've increased our presence internationally... we're going after players from Japan. Dayton has put an emphasis on being top-10 in scouting Latin America. Adding a 7th minor league affiliate to help improve player development.

The discussion has moved on... it's not about just spending money, it's about spending it wisely. Whether spending money for guys like Guillen, Furcal, etc, are smart moves.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by tk13

Whether spending money for guys like Guillen, Furcal, etc, are smart moves.

Please, no.

[jidar]

Originally Posted by CarolinaChiefz

Yes, but that would require spending real money. Not two-first-round-picks money. REAL money. Free agent & internal player retention money (see Beltran, Dye, and hopefully Greinke, with different results).

The kind of money that, despite Jackson county ponying up $250M (more ?) in a recession, the Glass family has yet to commit to the product on the field.

Apparently, in a recent questionnaire about improving fans' experience at the K, several options were listed. Noticeably absent? Better players/better team. Reason? It's cheaper to buy another hot dog stand, miniaturized field for 4-year-olds, or set of toilets than it is a power-hitting corner outfielder, another frontline starter, or anyone else who isn't Mark Teahen, Ross Gload or ....gulp....TPJ.

This is Missouri. SHOW ME.

Bah, they've been doing much better at spending money of late and it's starting to show on the field. This is still a small market team let's not forget, and Rome wasn't built in a day. Yes I know they've sucked for years, but the past two is where they've finally started to spend some money and the results are starting to show, let's give credit where it's due.