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**2112** · 10-14-2008, 06:27 AM

Chiefs' TE Tony Gonzalez says: Make me a Giant

BY RALPH VACCHIANO
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
Tuesday, October 14th 2008, 4:00 AM
CLEVELAND - Tony Gonzalez wants the Giants, but do the Giants want him?
That question will be answered by 4p.m. Tuesday , when the NFL's trading deadline arrives. Gonzalez, the future Hall of Fame tight end, has requested a trade from the Kansas City Chiefs. And not only has he asked to be traded to a contender, but he specifically mentioned the Giants.
So far, the Giants have only expressed a lukewarm interest, reportedly offering a sixth-round pick. According to various reports, the Chiefs are looking for either a second- or a third-rounder.
Giants GM Jerry Reese declined to confirm or deny those reports, saying only, "We investigate everything. You guys know that."
The Eagles, Bills, Packers and Buccaneers all have been mentioned as possible suitors.
BEATEN MAN: Aaron Ross knows he needs to forget about Monday night quickly. He also knows that won't be easy.
The Giants' second-year corner was on the receiving end of a flurry of knockout punches from Cleveland Browns receiver Braylon Edwards, who torched Ross for 154 yards and a touchdown on five catches in the Browns' 35-14 win. Ross let Edwards slip through his hands for a 49-yard catch in the first quarter, and later was turned around and burned on a 70-yard reception.
The final indignity came in the fourth quarter when Edwards caught an 11-yard touchdown pass after Ross fell the ground with cramps in his calf.
"He's a Pro Bowl player," Ross said. "But I feel like I've got to step it up a little better. Guys are putting their trust in me. I've got to play better next time."
LAME NIGHT: LB Antonio Pierce started Monday night despite not being able to practice all week because of an injured quad. But he immediately aggravated the injury and was pulled for the second series. He later returned, but appeared that the injury was still bothering him.
"I'm 100%," Pierce insisted after the game. "I'm alive. That's all that matters."
S James Butler suffered a biceps injury in the second quarter but later returned. His left arm was heavily wrapped after the game. LB Gerris Wilkinson suffered a knee strain.
KICKED ASIDE: K Lawrence Tynes is healthy and went through his pregame warmup routine again, but the Giants once again went with 44-year-old kicker John Carney. ... WR Sinorice Moss, one week after scoring two touchdowns, was inactive Monday night

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I dont think the Giants really need TG all that much to be honest. Thats why they are lowballing the offer.

Exactly, and I'm wondering why people don't realize this.

They HAD a top-tier TE, and TRADED him.

If they felt that a top TE was essential to winning, they would have kept him.

And considering they won the SB last year without one, I'd say they were correct in their decision making.

**CosmicPal** · 10-14-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Exactly, and I'm wondering why people don't realize this.

They HAD a top-tier TE, and TRADED him.

If they felt that a top TE was essential to winning, they would have kept him.

And considering they won the SB last year without one, I'd say they were correct in their decision making.

They traded him 'cause they liked what they saw in Kevin Boss his rookie season. He hasn't lived up to their expectations thus far this season, and they probably feel he needs another season or two.

PunkinDrublic · 10-14-2008, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Exactly, and I'm wondering why people don't realize this.

They HAD a top-tier TE, and TRADED him.

If they felt that a top TE was essential to winning, they would have kept him.

And considering they won the SB last year without one, I'd say they were correct in their decision making.

That had more to do with Shockey being a malcontent and a distraction to the team. Shockey isn't even close to being on the same level as TG so calling him a top-tier TE is a reach.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal

They traded him 'cause they liked what they saw in Kevin Boss his rookie season. He hasn't lived up to their expectations thus far this season, and they probably feel he needs another season or two.

So, you think the Giants are going to give up draft picks for TG just because Boss isn't having a great year?

People in this city completely overvalue the TE position...

PunkinDrublic · 10-14-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So, you think the Giants are going to give up draft picks for TG just because Boss isn't having a great year?

People in this city completely overvalue the TE position...

It's not that the TE position is being overvalued it's that the Giants are in the most competitive division in football. They have the luxory of a very explosive offense and TG could add another dimension that could possibly put them over the top.

**CosmicPal** · 10-14-2008, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So, you think the Giants are going to give up draft picks for TG just because Boss isn't having a great year?

People in this city completely overvalue the TE position...

I didn't say anything about the Giants trading for TG. I merely suggested why they got rid of Shockey- and that is they like what they see in Boss.

Sure-Oz · 10-14-2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So, you think the Giants are going to give up draft picks for TG just because Boss isn't having a great year?

People in this city completely overvalue the TE position...

I agree the Giants could USE him but they don't NEED him at all. The Bills are better off trading for him or the Vikings, Eagles etc.

bkkcoh · 10-14-2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

It's not that the TE position is being overvalued it's that the Giants are in the most competitive division in football. They have the luxory of a very explosive offense and TG could add another dimension that could possibly put them over the top.

If they end up with Tony, the eagles and redskins wont. Not saying that they are in the market for them, but....

Zouk · 10-14-2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So, you think the Giants are going to give up draft picks for TG just because Boss isn't having a great year?

People in this city completely overvalue the TE position...

It depends on the offense. Just because the Giants don't use the TE a lot does not mean that it's not an important position. The Patriots drafted both Ben Watson and Daniel Graham in the 1st round (and David Thomas in the 3rd) and they're not exactly stupid. Bill Parcells has talked extensively about the importance of a good tight end.

The real issue is Tony's age, contract, and loss of speed.

Sure-Oz · 10-14-2008, 09:26 AM

They use Watson and whatever TE to block and not catch. Watson would be a solid all around TE if they actually threw to him.

**luv** · 10-14-2008, 09:27 AM

When is the deadline? I know it's today, but what time?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

It's not that the TE position is being overvalued it's that the Giants are in the most competitive division in football. They have the luxory of a very explosive offense and TG could add another dimension that could possibly put them over the top.

Over the top of what?

They are the DEFENDING SB CHAMPIONS.

A championship they won WITHOUT an elite TE.

The Giants are smart not to give up the ransom they got from the Saints on Gonzalez. You don't trade 2 draft picks on a 32 year old TE that you don't need - and that you may only be renting for the next year and a half.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by luv

When is the deadline? I know it's today, but what time?

3:00 central.

Sure-Oz · 10-14-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by luv

When is the deadline? I know it's today, but what time?

3pm CST

PunkinDrublic · 10-14-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bkkcoh

If they end up with Tony, the eagles and redskins wont. Not saying that they are in the market for them, but....

That's what I'm trying to say. I would otherwise agree that the TE position isn't as signifigant. But for a division like the NFC east I could see where it could make a difference. An aging TG is still tough to defend in the red zone.

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