Chiefs Giants101 says a deal for Gonzalez is on the table... - Page 3

arrowheadnation · 10-14-2008, 12:52 PM

FWIW...don't shoot the messenger.

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Rumors Swirl - Giants Close to Gonzo Deal?
We've been doing all we can to get some information on this Tony Gonzalez situation here at Giants 101, and I've just received word that a Gonzalez deal is on the table. The deal reportedly involves Giants third-year wideout Sinorice Moss and a mid-round draft pick - possibly a 5th round pick.

However, I've also been told that the Buffalo Bills have made a significant offer to the Chiefs for Gonzalez as well, that could include a higher draft pick than the mid-round pick the Giants have on the table along with Moss.

Updates to follow here on Giants 101..

http://www.screamingsports.com/giant...onzo-deal.aspx

Dayze · 10-14-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

Y'know - if everyone would just stop listening to him, the fucknut would go away.

yeah; i typically listen to 980 news on the way home, but I'm home today and listening on the computer.

I hate KC sports radio. It's atrocious.

Valiant · 10-14-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by triple

Carl is going to make him eat sh#t the rest of the year. Amazing.

I agree.. You do not give up a star player that still has a good 3years left on this team, probably 4-5 sans injury on a great team for a ****ing 5th and a crappy player in return..

looks like TG should have been telling the other teams he is worth the 2nd.. Which if it is the Giants 2nd second is not much better then a 3rd sinch it will be in the 60's..

**dirk digler** · 10-14-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by triple

Carl is going to make him eat sh#t the rest of the year. Amazing.

Not really amazing or surprising.

Tony is Carl's boy and he isn't going to let him go very easily

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-14-2008, 01:19 PM

Just trade the sonofabitch and get it over with.

triple · 10-14-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Not really amazing or surprising.

Tony is Carl's boy and he isn't going to let him go very easily

if he's Carl's "boy".. .then maybe he will understand right?

Tony goes to Carl and asks to be traded. Tony is clearly unhappy. Carl gets several offers but tells Tony "ahh, FU, I am not taking a third instead of a second".

I bet Tony is going to love that.

I read a rumor the other day anyway that he was considering retirement if he couldn't get out of his deal here.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

I agree.. You do not give up a star player that still has a good 3years left on this team, probably 4-5 sans injury on a great team for a ****ing 5th and a crappy player in return..

looks like TG should have been telling the other teams he is worth the 2nd.. Which if it is the Giants 2nd second is not much better then a 3rd sinch it will be in the 60's..

Not picking on you, Valiant, but I've seen this so many times I have to ask a question.

Why do people think that TG has a "good 3 years left, probably 4-5 sans injury?"

There is absolutely nothing that backs up he'd even be here, much less as productive in 2011, 2012 or 2013.

However, there ARE articles and quotes that back up the fact that he thinks about retirement daily, and hasn't committed to a single snap past the 2009 season.

Is this nothing more than a case of wishful thinking that a fan favorite sticks around longer than is realistically expected?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by triple

if he's Carl's "boy".. .then maybe he will understand right?

Tony goes to Carl and asks to be traded. Tony is clearly unhappy. Carl gets several offers but tells Tony "ahh, FU, I am not taking a third instead of a second".

I bet Tony is going to love that.

I read a rumor the other day anyway that he was considering retirement if he couldn't get out of his deal here.

It has nothing to do with a trade.

He said in training camp that he thinks about retirement daily, and is not committed to a single snap past the 2009 season.

He was looking forward to retirement well before he asked for a trade 3 weeks ago...

**dirk digler** · 10-14-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by triple

if he's Carl's "boy".. .then maybe he will understand right?

Tony goes to Carl and asks to be traded. Tony is clearly unhappy. Carl gets several offers but tells Tony "ahh, FU, I am not taking a third instead of a second".

I bet Tony is going to love that.

I read a rumor the other day anyway that he was considering retirement if he couldn't get out of his deal here.

I agree with you but Carl isn't going to let him go that easy or cheaply.

Heck Carl and Trent were friends and he dragged out that trade for months.

Frankie · 10-14-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

No WR is going to shine here without a QB to throw them the damn ball, quit wasting your time Sperm.

And no QB will do well here with Dick Curl as our QB couch.

ChiefsFan4Life · 10-14-2008, 01:30 PM

I don't understand why Moss is in talks to be part of the deal. Did he go to UCLA or something?

**dirk digler** · 10-14-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It has nothing to do with a trade.

He said in training camp that he thinks about retirement daily, and is not committed to a single snap past the 2009 season.

He was looking forward to retirement well before he asked for a trade 3 weeks ago...

That is not entirely accurate

This is from 9-24-2008

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Q: Do you worry that you might be a Charles Barkley and not get a title?

GONZALEZ: “I think about it. I keep using the word frustrating, but that’s pretty much the way to describe it. It’s frustrating to me, because I want to win. This is my 12th year and I don’t know how many years I have left. I don’t want to sit out here and go out with a losing record. But at the same time, I’m going to go out there and enjoy the moment. At the very least, I’m looking for the positives here, I get to play football. I love playing football, there’s no doubt about it, I still feel like I can perform at a high level. Twelve years, but I’m only 32 years old. I’ve got a lot of football left in me if I want to play that much longer. I’m just trying to go out there and perform. And have fun with it, if we’re not going to win, then get mad about it and next week hopefully we can win.”

Q: How much longer do you want to keep playing?
GONZALEZ: “Right now, I’m definitely coming back next year, but then after that we’ll reevaluate and see. I feel pretty good right now. Barring any serious injury, I know I could come back after next year, but we’ll see how it goes, I don’t really know right now.”

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

That is not entirely accurate

This is from 9-24-2008

IF and COULD.

Notice anything missing?

WANT.

**dirk digler** · 10-14-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

IF and COULD.

Notice anything missing?

WANT.

Obviously because he is 32 and as you get older you have to evaluate whether you want to keep coming back every year. How many times did Will Shields say he was thinking about retiring? Probably the last 5 years he was here.

Tony knows the end is getting near and he probably has 3 years left DEPENDING on what team he is playing for and how healthy he stays.

triple · 10-14-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I agree with you but Carl isn't going to let him go that easy or cheaply.

Heck Carl and Trent were friends and he dragged out that trade for months.

Carl doesn't have friends. He has people who are loyal to him, people he can still use to get something he wants, and people who have outlived their usefulness.

He didn't give a crap about Trent Green on a personal level. His actions proved that. He doesn't care about Tony. He will pee on anyone's shoes for a nickel because he's fucking napoleon

**dirk digler** · 10-14-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by triple

Carl doesn't have friends. He has people who are loyal to him, people he can still use to get something he wants, and people who have outlived their usefulness.

He didn't give a crap about Trent Green on a personal level. His actions proved that. He doesn't care about Tony. He will pee on anyone's shoes for a nickel because he's fucking napoleon

Triple you are preaching to the choir.

I only said that about Trent because he said they were friends. They probably aren't now though.

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