Chiefs Herm\Carl take Chiefs to new low!!! - Page 7

**petegz28** · 10-14-2008, 02:38 PM

Ok, I know there was a lot of drama over the trades but the reality is we have AT LEAST 2, and in that case our BEST 2, players that want out from under Carl, Herm and the Chiefs. So after Allen opined in the same manner last year, one has to wonder how many people on this team really want to be here?

So who is the next one to want out from the disaster Herm and Co have created? Bowe? Charles? Flowers or Carr?

You can debate whether TG and LJ are right or wrong all you want. The fact is we have a team now where the best guys don't want to be here.

WAY TO ****ING REBUILD CARL!!!

Herm has ruined this team where Carl couldn't.

FAX · 10-14-2008, 03:08 PM

You don't need to be a psychic to realize what's happening to this team.

1. Our head coach is a doofus.
2. Our defense is worse than ever.
3. Our offense is worse than ever.
4. Our special teams are worse than ever. (The MVP notwithstanding.)
5. When panicked, we run the sloption.
6. Herm can blame every conceivable screw up on "youth" and "rebuilding".
7. Smart, competitive, veteran players who like winning don't need this.
8. Herm sells bullshit by the truckload.
9. When players aren't buying, he gets pissy.

Add it all up, and you have the ingredients for severe implosion. Which, in the long run, may not be a bad thing.

FAX

Sure-Oz · 10-14-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Who do we have that is better?

Tynes got a ring yes?

SO

you Herm-sperm eater!!

Tynes was a shitty kicker, wow he got lucky and drilled a game winner...I'd rather have Rob Bironaus after this season.

**dirk digler** · 10-14-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Okay, mindreader.

Tait said it in so many words when the Chiefs didn't match Chicago's offer.

That whole cussing out incident pretty much ruined that relationship especially with Tait's family.

**petegz28** · 10-14-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Okay, mindreader.

Dude it is a fact. There was no if's and's or but's about it, Tait was not up to negotiating with Carl, he wanted LT money or he was gone. And his stubborness was based on how Carl treated him during his signing when we drafted him.

"Sit there and shut up" I believe is what Carl told Tait at the signing.

beach tribe · 10-14-2008, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Tynes was a shitty kicker, wow he got lucky and drilled a game winner...I'd rather have Rob Bironaus after this season.

Me too. Unfortunately the Titans aren't stupid.

Reerun_KC · 10-14-2008, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX

You don't need to be a psychic to realize what's happening to this team.

1. Our head coach is a doofus.
2. Our defense is worse than ever.
3. Our offense is worse than ever.
4. Our special teams are worse than ever. (The MVP notwithstanding.)
5. When panicked, we run the sloption.
6. Herm can blame every conceivable screw up on "youth" and "rebuilding".
7. Smart, competitive, veteran players who like winning don't need this.
8. Herm sells bullshit by the truckload.
9. When players aren't buying, he gets pissy.

Add it all up, and you have the ingredients for severe implosion. Which, in the long run, may not be a bad thing.

FAX

Sadly Fax, you nailed it...

**petegz28** · 10-14-2008, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Tynes was a shitty kicker, wow he got lucky and drilled a game winner...I'd rather have Rob Bironaus after this season.

I am not saying Tynes was great. I am just saying he was the best kicker we had under the Herm era, i.e., Herm has yet to produce anyone that can compete with Tynes.

SAD!

beach tribe · 10-14-2008, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX

You don't need to be a psychic to realize what's happening to this team.

1. Our head coach is a doofus.
2. Our defense is worse than ever.
3. Our offense is worse than ever.
4. Our special teams are worse than ever. (The MVP notwithstanding.)
5. When panicked, we run the sloption.
6. Herm can blame every conceivable screw up on "youth" and "rebuilding".
7. Smart, competitive, veteran players who like winning don't need this.
8. Herm sells bullshit by the truckload.
9. When players aren't buying, he gets pissy.

Add it all up, and you have the ingredients for severe implosion. Which, in the long run, may not be a bad thing.

FAX

And those are the FAX.

Reerun_KC · 10-14-2008, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Tait said it in so many words when the Chiefs didn't match Chicago's offer.

That whole cussing out incident pretty much ruined that relationship especially with Tait's family.

How can one forget about Carl and that?

**petegz28** · 10-14-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

How can one forget about Carl and that?

Obviously a few Hermy-Humpers on here.

bobbything · 10-14-2008, 03:13 PM

People will still blame Dick Vermeil for the demise of this team long after Herm Edwards is gone.

We're gonna have a female, black, president, colonization on the Moon, and cures for both cancer and AIDS and people will still blame the Chiefs' 2-14 record on Vermeil. Even though Carl Peterson will still be at the helm during all of this.

CoMoChief · 10-14-2008, 03:13 PM

It's gotten to the point where the players (minus Waters.....good lord he needs to grow a pair and speek his mind) are not following Herm's plan......

This offense doesn't allow anyone to develope. We look like we don't belong on a football field on offense. It might the worst offense I've ever seen.....not kidding.

Eventually the losing falls directly and solely on the coaching staff....and in this case we have the most stubborn coach in the NFL that refuses to change anything......results still the same......then he sits on the sidelines not knowing what th **** to do.....

Eventually players lose all their hope.......now they are going into the game KNOWING they are about to get their asses handed to them.

**dirk digler** · 10-14-2008, 03:14 PM

Yeah Tait really wanted to come back

Quote:

“I'm at a point right now where I really have to be careful what I say,” Tait said. “I'd be glad to go back. There's a lot of good reasons I should stay. My teammates. The fans.

BigRock · 10-14-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Tynes has a ring doesn't he? He got it when we cut him for a kicker worse than him. We have yet to replace him with a kicker that was better than him.

We had John Carney last year. Carney was signed by the Giants because Tynes got hurt. Tynes is healthy and Carney is still their kicker.

Ergo, the Giants are choosing Carney over Tynes. Ergo, Carney is better than Tynes. Ergo, we have replaced Tynes with someone better, brief though it was.

And the hilarious thing is that if we'd kept Carney, it's the same crew bringing up Tynes in this thread that would be like "WTF?! REBUILDING?! CONNER BARTH FTW!!!!"

Brock · 10-14-2008, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28

Dude it is a fact. There was no if's and's or but's about it, Tait was not up to negotiating with Carl, he wanted LT money or he was gone. And his stubborness was based on how Carl treated him during his signing when we drafted him.

"Sit there and shut up" I believe is what Carl told Tait at the signing.

It isn't a fact. Stop acting like it is.

10-14-2008, 02:38 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1095873	Herm\Carl take Chiefs to new low!!! Ok, I know there was a lot of drama over the trades but the reality is we have AT LEAST 2, and in that case our BEST 2, players that want out from under Carl, Herm and the Chiefs. So after Allen opined in the same manner last year, one has to wonder how many people on this team really want to be here? So who is the next one to want out from the disaster Herm and Co have created? Bowe? Charles? Flowers or Carr? You can debate whether TG and LJ are right or wrong all you want. The fact is we have a team now where the best guys don't want to be here. WAY TO ****ING REBUILD CARL!!! Herm has ruined this team where Carl couldn't.
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FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	You don't need to be a psychic to realize what's happening to this team. 1. Our head coach is a doofus. 2. Our defense is worse than ever. 3. Our offense is worse than ever. 4. Our special teams are worse than ever. (The MVP notwithstanding.) 5. When panicked, we run the sloption. 6. Herm can blame every conceivable screw up on "youth" and "rebuilding". 7. Smart, competitive, veteran players who like winning don't need this. 8. Herm sells bullshit by the truckload. 9. When players aren't buying, he gets pissy. Add it all up, and you have the ingredients for severe implosion. Which, in the long run, may not be a bad thing. FAX
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10-14-2008, 03:13 PM	#101
bobbything Distributor of Pain Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $8644900	People will still blame Dick Vermeil for the demise of this team long after Herm Edwards is gone. We're gonna have a female, black, president, colonization on the Moon, and cures for both cancer and AIDS and people will still blame the Chiefs' 2-14 record on Vermeil. Even though Carl Peterson will still be at the helm during all of this. __________________ "It is not enough that I succeed; everyone else must fail."
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10-14-2008, 03:13 PM	#102
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7672254	It's gotten to the point where the players (minus Waters.....good lord he needs to grow a pair and speek his mind) are not following Herm's plan...... This offense doesn't allow anyone to develope. We look like we don't belong on a football field on offense. It might the worst offense I've ever seen.....not kidding. Eventually the losing falls directly and solely on the coaching staff....and in this case we have the most stubborn coach in the NFL that refuses to change anything......results still the same......then he sits on the sidelines not knowing what th **** to do..... Eventually players lose all their hope.......now they are going into the game KNOWING they are about to get their asses handed to them. __________________
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