Chiefs Herm\Carl take Chiefs to new low!!! - Page 10

**petegz28** · 10-14-2008, 02:38 PM

Ok, I know there was a lot of drama over the trades but the reality is we have AT LEAST 2, and in that case our BEST 2, players that want out from under Carl, Herm and the Chiefs. So after Allen opined in the same manner last year, one has to wonder how many people on this team really want to be here?

So who is the next one to want out from the disaster Herm and Co have created? Bowe? Charles? Flowers or Carr?

You can debate whether TG and LJ are right or wrong all you want. The fact is we have a team now where the best guys don't want to be here.

WAY TO ****ING REBUILD CARL!!!

Herm has ruined this team where Carl couldn't.

Sure-Oz · 10-14-2008, 03:32 PM

I'm glad Tait didn't become our LJ of the offensive line, now only if we can throw away Mcinpussy

Zouk · 10-14-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

No. What I did miss, though, was the part where we scored a touchdown with the sloption. Or gained a yard. Or made a positive gain. Or fooled anybody. Or accomplished anything. Whatsoever.

FAX

Okay - then in the future I suggest you state your objection as that we failed to get more than 3 or 4 yards with the sloption (which I believe is what we got), rather than we simply ran the sloption. Even thought the latter is exactly what you've been posting for a month.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-14-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything

I'll reserve my judgment till the end of the season, but I can't remember a team that looked this bad. Maybe the 86-87 team. That team was bad. But I think they won 4 games. At this rate, I don't see us doing that well this year.

All of the others between those years you mentioned hovered around 6-10 and 8-8. That's bad, but not this bad.

I bet we win 3 games this year and it is the worst Chiefs team since 1977.

If you're referring to the 1987 and 1988 teams, I'd agree.

Both of those teams had FAR more talent than the current Chiefs roster.

That was just all-around bad coaching and game-planning those two years.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything

I'll reserve my judgment till the end of the season, but I can't remember a team that looked this bad. Maybe the 86-87 team. That team was bad. But I think they won 4 games. At this rate, I don't see us doing that well this year.

All of the others between those years you mentioned hovered around 6-10 and 8-8. That's bad, but not this bad.

I bet we win 3 games this year and it is the worst Chiefs team since 1977.

You're missing the point.

The sandy vags are bitching about how bad things are, without putting things in perpsective.

2 bad seasons in a row is NOTHING.

Bottom line is that people were spoiled by mediocrity over the last 20 years.

Reerun_KC · 10-14-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris The Great

You mean like:

- Brought about sweeping change in the organization
- Took power away from King Carl
- Made the team focus on the draft
- Stopped the team from blowing their money on FAs who never deliver
- Actually tried to build a team the right way

Even if Herm never wins another game as Chiefs coach and the offense finishes with negative yards in every game, he has already done more positive things for this franchise than anyone else in a decade.

thats one way to look at it....

CoMoChief · 10-14-2008, 03:34 PM

People will stay at home and wont go to games. Blackouts will come......Chiefs won't make as much money.......Carl will be out of a job.

CoMoChief · 10-14-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I don't think you know what the argument is about.

Were you not ref to the John Tait situation while he was here?

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-14-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

thats one way to look at it....

That's the ONLY way to look at it today

Sure-Oz · 10-14-2008, 03:35 PM

This sunday's game going to be blacked out?? I wan't to see Gonzo's celebration hehe

FringeNC · 10-14-2008, 03:37 PM

It's obvious Herm wanted Tony gone, and Tony wanted out. Carl didn't do it. What game is Carl playing? Also suggests that the power hasn't completely shifted to Herm.

If Clark were really in Herm's corner, Tony gets traded.

Interesting times. Somebody is going to lose his job, if not both.

triple · 10-14-2008, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

It's obvious Herm wanted Tony gone, and Tony wanted out. Carl didn't do it. What game is Carl playing? Also suggests that the power hasn't completely shifted to Herm.

If Clark were really in Herm's corner, Tony gets traded.

Interesting times. Somebody is going to lose his job, if not both.

it appears that the Carl and Herm relationship has gone sour.

No doubt, Carl knows a battle for employment may be looming. he's preparing to throw Herm under the bus, or to make him want out

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-14-2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

If Clark were really in Herm's corner, Tony gets traded.

Uh, it takes TWO teams to make a trade. Not one.

No one was offering adequate compensation for Gonzalez.

PERIOD.

bobbything · 10-14-2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You're missing the point.

The sandy vags are bitching about how bad things are, without putting things in perpsective.

2 bad seasons in a row is NOTHING.

Bottom line is that people were spoiled by mediocrity over the last 20 years.

I think we're well on our way to duplicating those years.

But, I don't think it's the mediocrity that has spoiled everyone. Nobody is happy with mediocrity. It's the fact that when this team has been put in a position to succeed, in recent memory, (95, 97, 03) that it has fallen flat on its face. At least, that's what pisses me off.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything

I think we're well on our way to duplicating those years.

But, I don't think it's the mediocrity that has spoiled everyone. Nobody is happy with mediocrity. It's the fact that when this team has been put in a position to succeed, in recent memory, (95, 97, 03) that it has fallen flat on its face. At least, that's what pisses me off.

Take off the doom and gloom glasses.

You REALLY think this team is going to go 13 of the next 15 seasons with a losing record?

**Bowser** · 10-14-2008, 03:42 PM

Really, where the **** is Clark?

10-14-2008, 02:38 PM
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FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-1773986	It's obvious Herm wanted Tony gone, and Tony wanted out. Carl didn't do it. What game is Carl playing? Also suggests that the power hasn't completely shifted to Herm. If Clark were really in Herm's corner, Tony gets traded. Interesting times. Somebody is going to lose his job, if not both.
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