Chiefs Herm can't handle the egos...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 2bikemike

Well if Tony tanks the rest of the season and only puts forth half the effort then I will admit he was being a selfish prick. But no way do I fault him for wanting to get out of this worthless organization. It has gotten worse every year Herm has been here with no end in sight for the slide this team is in.
The only way this team rebuilds is to rebuild from the GM down. They have started with the players and now lets shit can the rest of the problem.

Then no offense, but I'm glad I've never been part of the same team as you.

Tony put himself ahead of the team, not once but twice. And people are hailing him the conquering hero for speaking out - not even thinking about the message it sends to a roster full of young players.

Meanwhile, there are people that want to burn Brian Waters at the stake for NOT speaking out, when he's the one taking the high road, acting like a professional, and not airing the team's dirty laundry in the media.

I'm glad Tyler called him out, and I hope the other younger players have the balls to do the same. Who wants to play with a guy who turns his back on the other 52 guys in the room?

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Anybody that says this isn't a distraction to the entire team has never played/worked on a team.

Exactly.

**petegz28** · 10-14-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Then no offense, but I'm glad I've never been part of the same team as you.

Tony put himself ahead of the team, not once but twice. And people are hailing him the conquering hero for speaking out - not even thinking about the message it sends to a roster full of young players.

Meanwhile, there are people that want to burn Brian Waters at the stake for NOT speaking out, when he's the one taking the high road, acting like a professional, and not airing the team's dirty laundry in the media.

I'm glad Tyler called him out, and I hope the other younger players have the balls to do the same. Who wants to play with a guy who turns his back on the other 52 guys in the room?

Exactly.

I love teammates that worry more about what the other guy is doing than them. Then again you are defending the abortion at Arrowhead like Herm was a lover or something.

Tyler ain't done shit to call out anyone about anything, anywhere. Especially someone like TG. Tyler and others need to learn how to ****ing block and tackle before they start worrying about the Hall of Famer.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I love teammates that worry more about what the other guy is doing than them. Then again you are defending the abortion at Arrowhead like Herm was a lover or something.

Tyler ain't done shit to call out anyone about anything, anywhere. Especially someone like TG. Tyler and others need to learn how to ****ing block and tackle before they start worrying about the Hall of Famer.

Hard not to worry about it when you have every media outlet in town asking you about it.

Gonzalez is a HOF'er, no doubt. But that doesn't excuse his me-first attitude over the past few weeks.

Leaders put the team first, themselves second.

ClevelandBronco · 10-14-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Hard not to worry about it when you have every media outlet in town asking you about it.

Gonzalez is a HOF'er, no doubt. But that doesn't excuse his me-first attitude over the past few weeks.

Leaders put the team first, themselves second.

The owner, the coach and the GM aren't trying to lead that team. There isn't even a freaking starting quarterback to step in.

Get off the tight end's ass.

2bikemike · 10-14-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Then no offense, but I'm glad I've never been part of the same team as you.

Tony put himself ahead of the team, not once but twice. And people are hailing him the conquering hero for speaking out - not even thinking about the message it sends to a roster full of young players.

Meanwhile, there are people that want to burn Brian Waters at the stake for NOT speaking out, when he's the one taking the high road, acting like a professional, and not airing the team's dirty laundry in the media.

I'm glad Tyler called him out, and I hope the other younger players have the balls to do the same. Who wants to play with a guy who turns his back on the other 52 guys in the room?

Exactly.

Tony has given this franchise his all for 11 years. He has been a class act the whole time. He's not T.O. or any of the other pieces of shit that divide locker rooms or get into trouble everytime you turn around.

I think he deserves his shot. He will never get it now. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he retires next year. Then we get nothing for him. If it would have worked out at least he would have helped us acquire more draft picks.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 2bikemike

Tony has given this franchise his all for 11 years. He has been a class act the whole time. He's not T.O. or any of the other pieces of shit that divide locker rooms or get into trouble everytime you turn around.

I think he deserves his shot. He will never get it now. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he retires next year. Then we get nothing for him. If it would have worked out at least he would have helped us acquire more draft picks.

And he's been paid extremely well for his service.

He sure didn't have a problem being here when he was given a signing bonus check for $17M...

And he is dividing the locker room, if you'd pay attention.

2bikemike · 10-14-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And he's been paid extremely well for his service.

He sure didn't have a problem being here when he was given a signing bonus check for $17M...

And he is dividing the locker room, if you'd pay attention.

I am paying attention. He has been in the league quite a while and has never been a problem. His career is coming to a close. He is and always has been an all pro. You can try and lay the blame where ever you want. But the bottom line is Herm is tearing this team apart. He will completely lose the locker room by Thanksgiving. Anybody who is worth a shit is not going to want to play for Herm.

ClevelandBronco · 10-14-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Who wants to play with a guy who turns his back on the other 52 guys in the room?

If that guy is TG and I'm not already a Hall of Famer, I figure I'd better cut him some slack.

He just may know what he's talking about.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

If that guy is TG and I'm not already a Hall of Famer, I figure I'd better cut him some slack.

He just may know what he's talking about.

Bullshit.

That sends a great message.

"Hey, young guy. If you perform and the fans love you, it gives you free reign to turn your back on your teammates..."

**petegz28** · 10-14-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Bullshit.

That sends a great message.

"Hey, young guy. If you perform and the fans love you, it gives you free reign to turn your back on your teammates..."

Oh this is rich. Who said he is turning his back on his teammates? Who risks life and limb catching Huards 13 ft ducks over the middle?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Oh this is rich. Who said he is turning his back on his teammates? Who risks life and limb catching Huards 13 ft ducks over the middle?

Are you ****ing kidding me?

Let's see. How about where he put himself ahead of the team, pouted about not getting a record at Arrowhead - while the other 52 guys in the room are celebrating breaking a 12 game losing streak?

How about taking a paycheck, knowing what he was in for, then putting his teammates in a position to answer for him in the media? If you're a young guy in that locker room (or a vet, for that matter) how do you continue to respect a guy that is looking to jump ship?

Apparently you have no concept of a TEAM.

smittysbar · 10-14-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Then no offense, but I'm glad I've never been part of the same team as you.

Tony put himself ahead of the team, not once but twice. And people are hailing him the conquering hero for speaking out - not even thinking about the message it sends to a roster full of young players.

Meanwhile, there are people that want to burn Brian Waters at the stake for NOT speaking out, when he's the one taking the high road, acting like a professional, and not airing the team's dirty laundry in the media

Not that people have put him on a pedestal, but think that it would be nice to see TG end his career with a possibility of winning something.

You are blowing most of this way out of proportion, no one is burning Waters at the stake, come on, all they are saying is that Waters is a Herm "Yes" guy.

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I'm glad Tyler called him out, and I hope the other younger players have the balls to do the same. Who wants to play with a guy who turns his back on the other 52 guys in the room?

BTW, Tyler didn't call TG out what so ever, he just said it was a strange situation

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar

Not that people have put him on a pedestal, but think that it would be nice to see TG end his career with a possibility of winning something.

You are blowing most of this way out of proportion, no one is burning Waters at the stake, come on, all they are saying is that Waters is a Herm "Yes" guy.

BTW, Tyler didn't call TG out what so ever, he just said it was a strange situation

So Water's is a yes man just because he acts like a professional and doesn't air the team's dirty laundry through the media? That's a leader. No one has any clue what Waters may, or may not be saying behind closed doors.

But to classify him as a yes man because he's trying to act like a pro and lead by example is exactly the kind of chicken-little, pile-on bullshit that has made this place unbearable lately.

**petegz28** · 10-14-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So Water's is a yes man just because he acts like a professional and doesn't air the team's dirty laundry through the media? That's a leader. No one has any clue what Waters may, or may not be saying behind closed doors.

But to classify him as a yes man because he's trying to act like a pro and lead by example is exactly the kind of chicken-little, pile-on bullshit that has made this place unbearable lately.

Ummm, didn't Waters make a comment last year about how he didn't mind losing but "when you don't even try to win?", wasn't that him after a game last year?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Ummm, didn't Waters make a comment last year about how he didn't mind losing but "when you don't even try to win?", wasn't that him after a game last year?

Don't know. Honestly, I don't care. If you actually have a link to that quote, I'd give it some consideration.

People are calling Waters a yes man over RECENT comments.