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booger · 10-14-2008, 11:02 PM

Gonzalez angered and baffled by non-tradeby Jay Glazer
Jay Glazer is a Senior NFL Writer for FOXSports.com on MSN and also appears every week on FOX NFL Sunday as the network's NFL Insider.

Updated: October 14, 2008, 11:46 PM EST

Tony Gonzalez figured there's no way I'd be writing a story today referring to him as Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez.

But after the NFL's trading deadline came and went and the future Hall Of Famer wasn't moved, he was wrought with a variety of emotions from disappointment to anger to trying to cope with damage caused by his trade request. But more than anything, there's confusion.

Tony Gonzalez: "Nobody is going to trade a second (-round pick) for a 32-year-old tight end." (Kevin C. Cox / Getty Images)

"I'm shocked," he said in an exclusive interview with FOXSports.com. "It didn't make sense not to do this deal. It's winding down for me and this team is rebuilding. If they said from the get-go, 'No, we're not going to trade you,' that would've been better than how this whole thing unfolded. But that's not what happened.

"Last night I talked to Carl (Peterson, Chiefs President and GM) and I point-blank asked him what it would take to get it done. I wanted to know if it could happen with a fourth (-round pick). He started talking about a second and a fifth like the Shockey deal. Nobody is going to trade a second for a 32-year-old tight end. All along Carl said he would do something that works for both parties. Then he talked about how he traded a third for Willie Roaf, and he made it pretty clear to me that's what was going to get it done. That was certainly fair.

"I know teams offered a third and in the end, Carl made the asking price a second. I'm very disappointed that he didn't go through with it after he told me he was going to try to make it happen. I've been around this league a long time, it's a business. There's nothing I can do about it. I was pissed off about it, but I'll get over it. I won't let it affect my play and my preparation."

So where does he go from here? Gonzalez insists he'll do whatever it takes to make the Chiefs a better team. But first he says he will clear the air with many of his teammates.

"I'm going to go in tomorrow and get up in front of the team, no coaches, just my teammates and let them know exactly where I was coming from," he said. "Like I said, they keep talking about the future here and trading me would've helped build for the future. I love Kansas City and will always be a Chief, always! But my road is coming to an end, and I didn't want it to end on a team that is rebuilding.

"When I signed my deal a few years ago, it was to end my career here. But I also felt we had real potential, I didn't see us ending up with a rebuilding effort. But once they cleaned house, and when they traded Jared (Allen), it was clearly to rebuild. They have a bright future here. Some of the players they've drafted are going to be great. They are on the right road, but by the time they travel it, I'll probably be done. That's why I asked for this, and I was certainly led to believe they understood this and would help accommodate it."

Gonzalez, after hanging up with Peterson last night, was pretty sure he'd soon pick up a new zip code. As the day progressed, several teams involved began increasing their offers. A few came up to a fourth while a pair came up to a third. The Chiefs, however, will remain steadfast with a second rounder.

"If I was 28-years-old, we wouldn't even be having this conversation," said the league's all-time receiving leader for tight ends. "We've been talking about it for three weeks now, so we've had plenty of time to get it done. In the end, they had their agenda, and I don't know if they were serious about trading me or whether they were just trying to appease me.

"But you know what? I can't cry about it. If anything, this has motivated me even more. I'm a Chief, will be happy to be a Chief and will bust my butt for the Chiefs. I was never not happy being a Chief. I just wanted the chance to spend my last couple of years winning a title, not rebuilding. But I'm here to help rebuild, I'll work with all our young guys and get after it like I always have."

InChiefsHeaven · 10-15-2008, 05:35 AM

I'm glad he's still here. I can't help it. He's always been a class act, and I think this interview was great. We'll see, but I can't believe he won't be the same old Tony.

...maybe this will fire up some of the younger guys...kinda like, "Win one for the Gonzo" so to speak. In any case, I don't think TG is gonna play like shit. He'll get over it, he even said so. Within 3 years, this team might be in contention, that's doable for TG. I don't blame the guy for being frustrated, if you are watching this team and sick to your stomach, imagine being a guy like TG and having to play on Sundays.

...meh. I'm a homer. I'm glad he's still here. Long live Gonzo in the Red and Gold.

King_Chief_Fan · 10-15-2008, 06:06 AM

Tony should

I want.... I don't want.... big ass baby.

The organization is supposed to take in the arse because he wants.

milkman · 10-15-2008, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Tony should

I want.... I don't want.... big ass baby.

The organization is supposed to take in the arse because he wants.

Did you not read the article?

As mecca pointed out, even Tony knows that no one is going to give up more than a third for a 32 year old TE, and a third was on the table.

They weren't going to take it in the "arse".

They were offered fair market value.

**dirk digler** · 10-15-2008, 06:16 AM

I understand both sides of this argument but if the Bills offered the Chiefs a 3rd and Tony rejected it that is on Tony. We know the Giants only offered a 4th so I am wondering what the mystery team offered and who that was.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-15-2008, 06:18 AM

So several reports say that Buffalo offered a 3rd, and Tony refused to go there.

Tony mentions in this interview that a 3rd should have gotten the deal done.

I'd love to know what REALLY happened.

**dirk digler** · 10-15-2008, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So several reports say that Buffalo offered a 3rd, and Tony refused to go there.

Tony mentions in this interview that a 3rd should have gotten the deal done.

I'd love to know what REALLY happened.

Yep me too but we know that the Bills offered a 3rd because Tony's friend Jay Glazer reported that and he said Tony turned it down.

**the Talking Can** · 10-15-2008, 06:37 AM

mortenson, on espn, just said 2 teams offered 3rds and Carl said no to both.....

can't believe we passed on a 3rd....**** this clown school...

Gonzo will retire, or play one more year at most for the chiefs....

we're "rebuilding" and we said no to a 4th for wesley and a 3rd for Gonzo

there is a reason we are a farce of a franchise...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-15-2008, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

mortenson, on espn, just said 2 teams offered 3rds and Carl said no to both.....

can't believe we passed on a 3rd....**** this clown school...

Gonzo will retire, or play one more year at most for the chiefs....

we're "rebuilding" and we said no to a 4th for wesley and a 3rd for Gonzo

there is a reason we are a farce of a franchise...

So it seems BRC's source may have come through again.

Buffalo offered a 3rd, but Tony declined to go there.

The Giants enter the fray late with a 3rd, and Carl backs off, pissing off Tony.

Wonder if Carl backed off to PURPOSELY piss Tony off, after Tony refused to go to Buffalo?

**ChiTown** · 10-15-2008, 06:43 AM

I have to ask.

Is anyone TRULY surprised that this thing was fugged up? I mean, it dealt with Carl Peterson, a trade and Draft Picks. Come on!

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-15-2008, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown

I have to ask.

Is anyone TRULY surprised that this thing was fugged up? I mean, it dealt with Carl Peterson, a trade and Draft Picks. Come on!

Nope.

Not one bit.

Carl's at blame, no doubt.

But it sounds like he was willing to send TG to Buffalo for a 3rd, and Tony said no.

Not exactly Carl's fault there.

However, it doesn't surprise me in the least that Carl would resort to these shenanigans and change the terms once the Giants got involved.

Sounds like a big "**** you" to Tony from Carl for trying to dictate where he was going to be dealt.

**Rausch** · 10-15-2008, 06:55 AM

At the end of the year Tony can ask to be traded and likely will before draft day. He can't pull a Favre though, retire, then around TC time decide to return.

Carl won't trade him, he'll just keep him and expect him to play...

triple · 10-15-2008, 07:08 AM

did anybody ever think Carl was going to deal with him honestly?

would Carl trade away the only marquee player on this team? no.

Carl blew smoke up his ass. he didn't think anyone would offer a third, then he got caught bluffing.

NY CHIEF · 10-15-2008, 07:10 AM

Should of shipped him off to buffalo....like it or not

patteeu · 10-15-2008, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv

Depends on if he has a no trade clause in his contract. If he has one, then he can reject it and there is nothing CP can do about it.

He doesn't need a no trade clause to refuse a trade if he's willing to retire rather than play there. I don't know if that's what happened or not, but that possibility shouldn't be ignored.

triple · 10-15-2008, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

He doesn't need a no trade clause to refuse a trade if he's willing to retire rather than play there. I don't know if that's what happened or not, but that possibility shouldn't be ignored.

how funny would it be if Gonzalez came out today and said he was retiring after this season.

10-14-2008, 11:02 PM
booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $-2371450	Glazer: Gonzalez angered and baffled by non-trade Gonzalez angered and baffled by non-tradeby Jay Glazer Jay Glazer is a Senior NFL Writer for FOXSports.com on MSN and also appears every week on FOX NFL Sunday as the network's NFL Insider. Updated: October 14, 2008, 11:46 PM EST Tony Gonzalez figured there's no way I'd be writing a story today referring to him as Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez. But after the NFL's trading deadline came and went and the future Hall Of Famer wasn't moved, he was wrought with a variety of emotions from disappointment to anger to trying to cope with damage caused by his trade request. But more than anything, there's confusion. Tony Gonzalez: "Nobody is going to trade a second (-round pick) for a 32-year-old tight end." (Kevin C. Cox / Getty Images) "I'm shocked," he said in an exclusive interview with FOXSports.com. "It didn't make sense not to do this deal. It's winding down for me and this team is rebuilding. If they said from the get-go, 'No, we're not going to trade you,' that would've been better than how this whole thing unfolded. But that's not what happened. "Last night I talked to Carl (Peterson, Chiefs President and GM) and I point-blank asked him what it would take to get it done. I wanted to know if it could happen with a fourth (-round pick). He started talking about a second and a fifth like the Shockey deal. Nobody is going to trade a second for a 32-year-old tight end. All along Carl said he would do something that works for both parties. Then he talked about how he traded a third for Willie Roaf, and he made it pretty clear to me that's what was going to get it done. That was certainly fair. "I know teams offered a third and in the end, Carl made the asking price a second. I'm very disappointed that he didn't go through with it after he told me he was going to try to make it happen. I've been around this league a long time, it's a business. There's nothing I can do about it. I was pissed off about it, but I'll get over it. I won't let it affect my play and my preparation." So where does he go from here? Gonzalez insists he'll do whatever it takes to make the Chiefs a better team. But first he says he will clear the air with many of his teammates. "I'm going to go in tomorrow and get up in front of the team, no coaches, just my teammates and let them know exactly where I was coming from," he said. "Like I said, they keep talking about the future here and trading me would've helped build for the future. I love Kansas City and will always be a Chief, always! But my road is coming to an end, and I didn't want it to end on a team that is rebuilding. "When I signed my deal a few years ago, it was to end my career here. But I also felt we had real potential, I didn't see us ending up with a rebuilding effort. But once they cleaned house, and when they traded Jared (Allen), it was clearly to rebuild. They have a bright future here. Some of the players they've drafted are going to be great. They are on the right road, but by the time they travel it, I'll probably be done. That's why I asked for this, and I was certainly led to believe they understood this and would help accommodate it." Gonzalez, after hanging up with Peterson last night, was pretty sure he'd soon pick up a new zip code. As the day progressed, several teams involved began increasing their offers. A few came up to a fourth while a pair came up to a third. The Chiefs, however, will remain steadfast with a second rounder. "If I was 28-years-old, we wouldn't even be having this conversation," said the league's all-time receiving leader for tight ends. "We've been talking about it for three weeks now, so we've had plenty of time to get it done. In the end, they had their agenda, and I don't know if they were serious about trading me or whether they were just trying to appease me. "But you know what? I can't cry about it. If anything, this has motivated me even more. I'm a Chief, will be happy to be a Chief and will bust my butt for the Chiefs. I was never not happy being a Chief. I just wanted the chance to spend my last couple of years winning a title, not rebuilding. But I'm here to help rebuild, I'll work with all our young guys and get after it like I always have."
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10-15-2008, 05:35 AM	#31
InChiefsHeaven Rockin' yer FACE OFF! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Casino cash: $615437	I'm glad he's still here. I can't help it. He's always been a class act, and I think this interview was great. We'll see, but I can't believe he won't be the same old Tony. ...maybe this will fire up some of the younger guys...kinda like, "Win one for the Gonzo" so to speak. In any case, I don't think TG is gonna play like shit. He'll get over it, he even said so. Within 3 years, this team might be in contention, that's doable for TG. I don't blame the guy for being frustrated, if you are watching this team and sick to your stomach, imagine being a guy like TG and having to play on Sundays. ...meh. I'm a homer. I'm glad he's still here. Long live Gonzo in the Red and Gold. __________________ We have a million reasons for failure, but not one excuse... Die Donks, DIE!! Holy Crap fellas!!! We did it!!! THREE TIMES!!!
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10-15-2008, 06:06 AM	#32
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10-15-2008, 06:16 AM	#34
dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $144644	I understand both sides of this argument but if the Bills offered the Chiefs a 3rd and Tony rejected it that is on Tony. We know the Giants only offered a 4th so I am wondering what the mystery team offered and who that was.
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10-15-2008, 06:18 AM	#35
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2061115	So several reports say that Buffalo offered a 3rd, and Tony refused to go there. Tony mentions in this interview that a 3rd should have gotten the deal done. I'd love to know what REALLY happened.
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10-15-2008, 06:37 AM	#37
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9192208	mortenson, on espn, just said 2 teams offered 3rds and Carl said no to both..... can't believe we passed on a 3rd....** this clown school... Gonzo will retire, or play one more year at most for the chiefs.... we're "rebuilding" and we said no to a 4th for wesley and a 3rd for Gonzo there is a reason we are a farce of a franchise... __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"**
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10-15-2008, 06:43 AM	#39
ChiTown Stroking to the SB Champs! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Flatlands of Kansas Casino cash: $-501038	I have to ask. Is anyone TRULY surprised that this thing was fugged up? I mean, it dealt with Carl Peterson, a trade and Draft Picks. Come on! __________________
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10-15-2008, 07:08 AM	#42
triple Stop saying &quot;This.&quot; Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	did anybody ever think Carl was going to deal with him honestly? would Carl trade away the only marquee player on this team? no. Carl blew smoke up his ass. he didn't think anyone would offer a third, then he got caught bluffing. __________________
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10-15-2008, 07:10 AM	#43
NY CHIEF Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manlius ,New York Casino cash: $-454000	Should of shipped him off to buffalo....like it or not
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