Herm can't handle the egos...

[milkman]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Dude you are not EVEN comparing Waters to TG are you? For real? You are doing that with a straight face?

You have to be shitting yourself to think I would buy that comparison for a New York minute.

Yes, TG has given a lot more than Waters has. Is Waters the best G to ever play the game??? He couldn't hold Shields' jock.

You are a ****ing idiot.

Yes Tony is one of the best ever to play the game at his position.

But he also was blessed with talent that made him a top 20 pick in the draft, and he has lived up to expectations.

Waters, on the hand, was not blessed with that same God given talent.

He was undrafted, bounced from team to team, and position to position, and through sheer determination and effort, became one of the better players at his position.

He may not be one of the best ever, but he damn sure gave every bit as much of himself as did Tony, if not more.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by milkman

You are a ****ing idiot.

Yes Tony is one of the best ever to play the game at his position.

But he also was blessed with talent that made him a top 20 pick in the draft, and he has lived up to expectations.

Waters, on the hand, was not blessed with that same God given talent.

He was undrafted, bounced from team to team, and position to position, and through sheer determination and effort, became one of the better players at his position.

He may not be one of the best ever, but he damn sure gave every bit as much of himself as did Tony, if not more.

You could also add Kimble Anders, TRich, and Dan Williams.

All guys easily overachieved and got the stinky end of the stick when it came to carl. These are guys who for the most part didn't raise Cain or complain about much, they just went out and produced.

Hell, if anything, I'm sick over Shields not getting a ring...