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booger · 10-14-2008, 11:02 PM

Gonzalez angered and baffled by non-tradeby Jay Glazer
Jay Glazer is a Senior NFL Writer for FOXSports.com on MSN and also appears every week on FOX NFL Sunday as the network's NFL Insider.

Updated: October 14, 2008, 11:46 PM EST

Tony Gonzalez figured there's no way I'd be writing a story today referring to him as Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez.

But after the NFL's trading deadline came and went and the future Hall Of Famer wasn't moved, he was wrought with a variety of emotions from disappointment to anger to trying to cope with damage caused by his trade request. But more than anything, there's confusion.

Tony Gonzalez: "Nobody is going to trade a second (-round pick) for a 32-year-old tight end." (Kevin C. Cox / Getty Images)

"I'm shocked," he said in an exclusive interview with FOXSports.com. "It didn't make sense not to do this deal. It's winding down for me and this team is rebuilding. If they said from the get-go, 'No, we're not going to trade you,' that would've been better than how this whole thing unfolded. But that's not what happened.

"Last night I talked to Carl (Peterson, Chiefs President and GM) and I point-blank asked him what it would take to get it done. I wanted to know if it could happen with a fourth (-round pick). He started talking about a second and a fifth like the Shockey deal. Nobody is going to trade a second for a 32-year-old tight end. All along Carl said he would do something that works for both parties. Then he talked about how he traded a third for Willie Roaf, and he made it pretty clear to me that's what was going to get it done. That was certainly fair.

"I know teams offered a third and in the end, Carl made the asking price a second. I'm very disappointed that he didn't go through with it after he told me he was going to try to make it happen. I've been around this league a long time, it's a business. There's nothing I can do about it. I was pissed off about it, but I'll get over it. I won't let it affect my play and my preparation."

So where does he go from here? Gonzalez insists he'll do whatever it takes to make the Chiefs a better team. But first he says he will clear the air with many of his teammates.

"I'm going to go in tomorrow and get up in front of the team, no coaches, just my teammates and let them know exactly where I was coming from," he said. "Like I said, they keep talking about the future here and trading me would've helped build for the future. I love Kansas City and will always be a Chief, always! But my road is coming to an end, and I didn't want it to end on a team that is rebuilding.

"When I signed my deal a few years ago, it was to end my career here. But I also felt we had real potential, I didn't see us ending up with a rebuilding effort. But once they cleaned house, and when they traded Jared (Allen), it was clearly to rebuild. They have a bright future here. Some of the players they've drafted are going to be great. They are on the right road, but by the time they travel it, I'll probably be done. That's why I asked for this, and I was certainly led to believe they understood this and would help accommodate it."

Gonzalez, after hanging up with Peterson last night, was pretty sure he'd soon pick up a new zip code. As the day progressed, several teams involved began increasing their offers. A few came up to a fourth while a pair came up to a third. The Chiefs, however, will remain steadfast with a second rounder.

"If I was 28-years-old, we wouldn't even be having this conversation," said the league's all-time receiving leader for tight ends. "We've been talking about it for three weeks now, so we've had plenty of time to get it done. In the end, they had their agenda, and I don't know if they were serious about trading me or whether they were just trying to appease me.

"But you know what? I can't cry about it. If anything, this has motivated me even more. I'm a Chief, will be happy to be a Chief and will bust my butt for the Chiefs. I was never not happy being a Chief. I just wanted the chance to spend my last couple of years winning a title, not rebuilding. But I'm here to help rebuild, I'll work with all our young guys and get after it like I always have."

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-15-2008, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The majority do get it. I think the majority would have taken the 3rd rounder.

Really?

I think it's close, but it seems to me that majority are letting emotions get in the way, and are overvaluing him.

JMO.

patteeu · 10-15-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

But he wanted to play for the Giants? WTF is the difference

If you can make it in New York, you can make it anywhere. The big difference is that New York is a high profile town for high profile people. In addition to bad weather and less recent success on the field, Buffalo is backwater.

patteeu · 10-15-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I don't disagree.

I fully understand that Tony is worth more to the Chiefs,

But the point remains that the Chiefs were offered fair market value.

It sounds to me like Buffalo set the price, Tony nixed the deal, then the Giants tried to come in late with a somewhat discounted offer.

KCrockaholic · 10-15-2008, 11:01 AM

I understand Tony's point, and I cant say a bad thing about the guy. He's one of the better guys left in the league....we wont see him getting his 3rd assualt charge anytime soon. Carl is a douchebag as always, that needs to be fired today. While Herm needs to be downgraded back to scouting director because thats the only thing hes good at...Carl once again finds a way to screw over his best players

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-15-2008, 11:02 AM

After reading that article and getting emotionally uninvolved from it, I have to say that Tony is still the same class act he's always been. I have no doubt in my mind he's a Chief through and through. I'm glad he's still here for personal reasons, but am torn and wish he had an opportunity to compete for a Super Bowl. Sorry it didn't work out Tony, but I'm glad you're still with us.

KCUnited · 10-15-2008, 11:05 AM

Tony should be angry. Carl screwed him out of the biggest contribution he could give this rebuild, and that was a 3rd round draft pick.

CoMoChief · 10-15-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kaplin42

I would be willing to bet mondy that TG is gone in the offseason. He will go play a year or two for some other team.

No one is going to deal a 3rd for him then, he will just be one year older.

Chiefnj2 · 10-15-2008, 11:12 AM

This is also another example of a veteran player coming clean and saying Peterson misled them and didn't uphold his end of the bargain.

Extra Point · 10-15-2008, 12:01 PM

KCTV5 reported that he has one year after this, then he's retiring. Another masterstroke for CarP.

CupidStunt · 10-15-2008, 12:01 PM

It's okayyyy. JFC.

/McCloud

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-15-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Extra Point

KCTV5 reported that he has one year after this, then he's retiring. Another masterstroke for CarP.

Exactly wat I've been saying for the past several days.

Good work, Carl.

StcChief · 10-15-2008, 12:53 PM

hopefully another nail in the Carl Coffin...

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-15-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lj4mvp

It's okayyyy. JFC.

/McCloud

Go **** yourself, Doucheweed.

The Chiefs should have taken the 3rd round pick.

With all the agents advising their junior clients to come out in 2009 (because with a new CBA in 2010, there's a likelihood of NBA-Style rookie slotting draft), not only will 2009 be the deepest draft ever, that 3rd round pick could be a valuable immediate starter.

sportsman1 · 10-15-2008, 02:13 PM

The thing that really sickens me is that Clark just sits back and lets Carl and Herm do whatever the hell they want. There is no question in my mind that he could care less.

HypnotizedMonkey · 10-15-2008, 02:19 PM

... but like he's really going to come out and say he DOESN'T like being a Chief.. even if he really doesn't. Tony's a smart guy... he knows what not to say. I'd be way more pissed off at this point.. but he IS a class act. lol

10-14-2008, 11:02 PM
booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $-2371450	Glazer: Gonzalez angered and baffled by non-trade Gonzalez angered and baffled by non-tradeby Jay Glazer Jay Glazer is a Senior NFL Writer for FOXSports.com on MSN and also appears every week on FOX NFL Sunday as the network's NFL Insider. Updated: October 14, 2008, 11:46 PM EST Tony Gonzalez figured there's no way I'd be writing a story today referring to him as Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez. But after the NFL's trading deadline came and went and the future Hall Of Famer wasn't moved, he was wrought with a variety of emotions from disappointment to anger to trying to cope with damage caused by his trade request. But more than anything, there's confusion. Tony Gonzalez: "Nobody is going to trade a second (-round pick) for a 32-year-old tight end." (Kevin C. Cox / Getty Images) "I'm shocked," he said in an exclusive interview with FOXSports.com. "It didn't make sense not to do this deal. It's winding down for me and this team is rebuilding. If they said from the get-go, 'No, we're not going to trade you,' that would've been better than how this whole thing unfolded. But that's not what happened. "Last night I talked to Carl (Peterson, Chiefs President and GM) and I point-blank asked him what it would take to get it done. I wanted to know if it could happen with a fourth (-round pick). He started talking about a second and a fifth like the Shockey deal. Nobody is going to trade a second for a 32-year-old tight end. All along Carl said he would do something that works for both parties. Then he talked about how he traded a third for Willie Roaf, and he made it pretty clear to me that's what was going to get it done. That was certainly fair. "I know teams offered a third and in the end, Carl made the asking price a second. I'm very disappointed that he didn't go through with it after he told me he was going to try to make it happen. I've been around this league a long time, it's a business. There's nothing I can do about it. I was pissed off about it, but I'll get over it. I won't let it affect my play and my preparation." So where does he go from here? Gonzalez insists he'll do whatever it takes to make the Chiefs a better team. But first he says he will clear the air with many of his teammates. "I'm going to go in tomorrow and get up in front of the team, no coaches, just my teammates and let them know exactly where I was coming from," he said. "Like I said, they keep talking about the future here and trading me would've helped build for the future. I love Kansas City and will always be a Chief, always! But my road is coming to an end, and I didn't want it to end on a team that is rebuilding. "When I signed my deal a few years ago, it was to end my career here. But I also felt we had real potential, I didn't see us ending up with a rebuilding effort. But once they cleaned house, and when they traded Jared (Allen), it was clearly to rebuild. They have a bright future here. Some of the players they've drafted are going to be great. They are on the right road, but by the time they travel it, I'll probably be done. That's why I asked for this, and I was certainly led to believe they understood this and would help accommodate it." Gonzalez, after hanging up with Peterson last night, was pretty sure he'd soon pick up a new zip code. As the day progressed, several teams involved began increasing their offers. A few came up to a fourth while a pair came up to a third. The Chiefs, however, will remain steadfast with a second rounder. "If I was 28-years-old, we wouldn't even be having this conversation," said the league's all-time receiving leader for tight ends. "We've been talking about it for three weeks now, so we've had plenty of time to get it done. In the end, they had their agenda, and I don't know if they were serious about trading me or whether they were just trying to appease me. "But you know what? I can't cry about it. If anything, this has motivated me even more. I'm a Chief, will be happy to be a Chief and will bust my butt for the Chiefs. I was never not happy being a Chief. I just wanted the chance to spend my last couple of years winning a title, not rebuilding. But I'm here to help rebuild, I'll work with all our young guys and get after it like I always have."
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10-15-2008, 11:01 AM	#79
KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $3342900	I understand Tony's point, and I cant say a bad thing about the guy. He's one of the better guys left in the league....we wont see him getting his 3rd assualt charge anytime soon. Carl is a douchebag as always, that needs to be fired today. While Herm needs to be downgraded back to scouting director because thats the only thing hes good at...Carl once again finds a way to screw over his best players
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10-15-2008, 11:05 AM	#81
KCUnited Cheat Death Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of Drincoln Casino cash: $-1591756	Tony should be angry. Carl screwed him out of the biggest contribution he could give this rebuild, and that was a 3rd round draft pick.
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10-15-2008, 11:12 AM	#83
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	This is also another example of a veteran player coming clean and saying Peterson misled them and didn't uphold his end of the bargain. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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10-15-2008, 12:01 PM	#84
Extra Point MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Prairie Village, KS Casino cash: $10004900	KCTV5 reported that he has one year after this, then he's retiring. Another masterstroke for CarP. __________________ "Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits." --Satchel Paige
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10-15-2008, 12:01 PM	#85
CupidStunt offense > defense Join Date: Jul 2005 Casino cash: $-726668	It's okayyyy. JFC. /McCloud
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10-15-2008, 02:13 PM	#89
sportsman1 Nomadical Transient in Chief Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fort Worth, TX Casino cash: $10005215	The thing that really sickens me is that Clark just sits back and lets Carl and Herm do whatever the hell they want. There is no question in my mind that he could care less.
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10-15-2008, 02:19 PM	#90
HypnotizedMonkey usually hooplah is involved Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Casino cash: $10004925	... but like he's really going to come out and say he DOESN'T like being a Chief.. even if he really doesn't. Tony's a smart guy... he knows what not to say. I'd be way more pissed off at this point.. but he IS a class act. lol
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