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Old 10-19-2008, 10:52 PM  
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Whitlock brings the ****ing axe down.

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Now what?

The Chiefs lost their fragile and fraudulent quarterback of the future, exposing the irresponsibility of opening the season with a quarterback depth chart Rockhurst High’s Tony Severino would find objectionable.

Now what?

Today, the Chiefs welcome back to their starting lineup the unrepentant malcontent/running back who surely spent Sunday afternoon palling around with friends, laughing at the offense missing Larry Johnson that couldn’t move the chains or threaten the Titans when the outcome was in doubt.

Now what? Where do the Chiefs go from here? How do they define themselves and move forward after Tennessee blanked them for three quarters, embarrassed them for four and routed them 34-10 at Arrowhead Stadium?

There were no answers inside Kansas City’s locker room. There were plenty of stunned, silent looks and quick exits. You can’t blame them. There were few relevant, probing questions to be asked.

All the answers had been provided during three hours on the field.

Coming off a bye week filled with drama, acrimony, Brodie Croyle-inspired optimism and a get-tough deactivation of Johnson, Herm Edwards and his coaching staff bombed in a way that makes their employment here next season indefensible.

By declining to draft or acquire a quarterback to compete against Brittle Croyle and elevating clock-management specialist Dick “Father Time” Curl to oversee the most important position on any football team, Edwards tethered himself to Croyle.

When Croyle limped off the field with a season-(career)-ending knee injury early in the second quarter, Herm might as well have grabbed a pair of crutches and retired to the locker room with his Arena League QB of the future.

It’s over — the Croyle experiment, the Herm-driven rebuilding process and the Peterson-approved redistribution of Hunt family wealth. All good and bad things end, and the Titans literally ran over (332 yards on the ground) the remains of the Peterson era.

What we’ve witnessed this season in general — and the last two weeks in particular — is unacceptable and unprofessional. In its five losses, Kansas City’s opponents outscored Herm’s boys 147-42. The Chiefs’ lone victory — a 33-19 romp over the Broncos — was such an obvious fluke that it revealed nothing about the rebuilding effort.

The Chiefs are a joke right now. They have as little credibility as the Royals. The ownership is timid at a time when boldness is required. This is not a call to fire Peterson or Edwards today. It’s a call that Clark Hunt acknowledge that no progress is being made.

After Sunday’s performance, I’ll vouch for the professionalism and skill of one player on the roster. Tony Gonzalez is a winning player. Every other player is a mystery.

Kansas City’s offensive line is so inept that it is difficult for me to discern whether Pro Bowl guard Brian Waters is effective. I know that Rudy Niswanger, Adrian Jones and Damion McIntosh are not players a team can win consistently with in the starting lineup.

Also, I know that first-round pick Glenn Dorsey has been a bust through six games. I’ve watched film, and his footwork is horrid. He catches on run plays and tries to win a bench-press contest. An NFL lineman wins or loses the battle with his first step. Dorsey’s first step is slow and often misdirected. He hasn’t mastered the explosive, violent, 6-inch control step. I’ve seen Dorsey drop his foot back. I’ve seen him step the wrong direction.

On Sunday, the Titans had their way with Dorsey. On a key third-and-short play early in the contest, a Titans guard destroyed Dorsey at the point of attack, and a Tennessee running back ran right through where Dorsey was before he was removed the way a bouncer ushers a drunken customer out of Mosaic.

And someone sound an Amber Alert for 2006 first-round pick Tamba Hali, Kansas City’s sackless pass-rush specialist. If Hali has a bad knee, sit him down and un-Velcro him from opposing offensive tackles.

Herm’s youth movement is starting to resemble the last 15 years of “Saturday Night Live.” He keeps adding expensive cast members who can’t recapture the magic of Derrick Thomas, Neil Smith, James Hasty and Dale Carter.

Short of a Sarah Palin/Tina Fey falling in Herm’s lap, the Chiefs seem unsalvageable.

Next season, the Chiefs will draft and/or acquire three quarterbacks. They’ll start from scratch. Would any sane man, woman or child allow Edwards, Father Time and The Artist Formerly Known as King Carl to select KC’s next three quarterbacks?


Herm’s claim to quarterback fame is that he fell in love with Bill Parcells’ weak-armed thrower, Chad Pennington. Curl’s claim to QB fame is far more impressive. Father Time guided an NFL Europe offense that featured future NFL journeyman Jon Kitna. Curl also was QB coach/offensive coordinator of some unforgettable-but-totally-forgotten 1980s offenses at Virginia, Rutgers and Boston College. As you can see, Curl’s QB resume is as decorated as Bill Walsh’s.

But it is not quite as sparkling as Carl Peterson’s. There is not enough room to list all of the gifted quarterbacks Peterson has identified. Let’s just say it would be negligent not to mention Mike Elkins, Matt “Draft Blunder” Blundin, Pat Barnes and Elvis Grbac.

Given the collective QB brain power at Arrowhead Stadium, Chiefs fans have every reason to feel confident that when Edwards, Curl, Peterson and Bill Kuharich heave a dart at a board, it is very likely to land on the NFL’s next great QB.

Now what? I suggest you spend the rest of the season fantasizing about Clark Hunt taking the obvious necessary steps to improve his football franchise.
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:47 AM   #31
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When your a top 5 pick, your expected to have an IMMEDIATE IMPACT.

Hes been disappointing so far.

I might be wrong, but none of the players picked 5 or 6 spots after him are having too much of an immediate impact?

Dorsey was the correct pick in that spot, but man, it sure sucks knowing we didnt have the SACK to try and trade up to snag Ryan. Story of this franchise and Peterson. No balls. Always play everything safe. Always stay mediocre.
I don't know about 5 or 6 spots, but the guy picked seven slots later is having a great year to this point (Ryan Clady).
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:50 AM   #32
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Uh-oh. Isn't Kitna available? I didn't realize he was Curl's boy..

And this, is priceless:

"Herm’s youth movement is starting to resemble the last 15 years of “Saturday Night Live.” He keeps adding expensive cast members who can’t recapture the magic of Derrick Thomas, Neil Smith, James Hasty and Dale Carter."

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Old 10-20-2008, 07:50 AM   #33
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"...the Chiefs seem unsalvageable."


My sentiments exactly.
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:51 AM   #34
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Ah. It has come to this.

Where are all the brave souls who cried for ripping it out by the roots? Starting from scratch? Total ground-to-roof rebuild? Now that we're in the throes of total humiliation, have you lost the stomach for what you most desired?

Herm didn't let Jared Allen go or invest heavily in LJ. Herm didn't injure Brodie. There is plenty of blame to go around, and Herm deserves a lot. But we all knew before the first preseason game that we'd be lucky to win 5 games. That wasn't what this season was about. It was a 16 game preseason try-out for the 2009-2010 Chiefs.

The team will have to acquire a QB. Not just any QB, but a can't-miss-franchise QB that will play in KC for a decade. Whitlock makes a strong argument against doing that with the current braintrust at One Arrowhead Drive. But wasn't Jason (and 99% of us) waxing confident about what a great pick Dorsey was? And I was flamed earlier in the season for daring to say Darren McFadden > Dorsey. Tsk, tsk, tsk...

There's no way Mr. Hunt keeps Carl. There's no way you fire Herm after investing so much in his vision and plan. So, regardless of deeply felt indignation, Herm will finish his contract, Carl will choose the QBotF (unless he resigns) and our best hope is that Dick Curl fades out and a real QB coach is acquired to groom _____________________ our 2009 #1 pick (unless the Brady Quinn prospects improve).

Right now, someone needs to call 911 for this pathetic _efense. Two games giving up over 300 yards rushing (and both at home) means this team has nothing, nada, nein to build around when the other team has the ball.

Good to see Dantrell Savage back!

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There you are.. Herm has been taking a beating around here... Nice to see you stop licking his nutsack long enough to come over and defend his ineptude for awhile...
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:52 AM   #35
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These ****tards could have drafted Neil Smith, Bruce Smith, Warren Sapp and Mean Joe Green in the same class and all four would be packing groceries a year later.

Under this staff we could have a potential pro bowler at each spot and they would still be luck to go .500.

THERE IS NO ONE ON THE CHIEFS WHO KNOWS HOW TO DEVELOP TALENT OUTSIDE THE OFFENSIVE LINE.
Actually if you remember, Neil Smith was considered a bust till Marty and his staff came in and coached him to the level he finally became.
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:52 AM   #36
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It's not just a question of them not being able to find the right QB...even if they somehow defied all expectations and did pick the right one they'd unquestionably **** it up by coaching him poorly and getting him killed behind a poor O line.

Agreed.
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:59 AM   #37
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I don't know about 5 or 6 spots, but the guy picked seven slots later is having a great year to this point (Ryan Clady).
True,

But except for the injuries, Albert looks pretty good so far.

As JWhit has mentioned many times, Herms fatal mistake was banking on Brittle Brodie. That was borderline insane.
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:13 AM   #38
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Actually if you remember, Neil Smith was considered a bust till Marty and his staff came in and coached him to the level he finally became.
He only played one year before Marty came on board.
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:15 AM   #39
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I still think the Chiefs Dline is very poorly coached, and some guys aren't in the right spots..
I've watched the team for a decade now and I can count the number of Chiefs d-linemen that have shown any kind of development on one finger.

Krumrie needs to go. Today. Gunther needs to go. Today. The defense is supposed to be the strength of the team, Gun's had 5 years to work on it, and it's regressing to the point where Greg Robinson looks like a viable alternative.
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True,

But except for the injuries, Albert looks pretty good so far.

As JWhit has mentioned many times, Herms fatal mistake was banking on Brittle Brodie. That was borderline insane.
Well he also banked on Huard and Thigpen..

How can one want to rebuild a team when you ignore your two most important positions...

QB and LT, We have lost our Brokie permantely..
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There is no excuse for the DL to be playing so poorly. The entire starting DL consists of first day picks.

Even before Jared Allen began to produce guys like Eric Hicks and Holliday would occassionally meet at the QB.
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Well he also banked on Huard and Thigpen..

How can one want to rebuild a team when you ignore your two most important positions...

QB and LT, We have lost our Brokie permantely..
Its these types of diasaterous decsions that cause management and coaches to lose their jobs in other cities.

This shouldnt even be a debate anymore. Clark has ZERO sack. To come out last week and insult the fans by saying Carl and Herm are doing a good job was just wrong.
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:40 AM   #43
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Guys...you gotta look on the bright side...the stadium was still sold out, and the crowd looked like they were still having fun, even when we were losing 27-3. Frankly, you can't get a better entertainment value in KC than a Chiefs game.
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Guys...you gotta look on the bright side...the stadium was still sold out, and the crowd looked like they were still having fun, even when we were losing 27-3. Frankly, you can't get a better entertainment value in KC than a Chiefs game.
Thats fine. I understand that. People have a right to pay for whatever they want to in life even if its complete crap.

But Clark also should feel a greater responsibility to the fans who pay the bills. Put a much better product on the field instead of settling for mediocrity.

As Jwhit has mentioned a few times, the fans have suffered long enough through thick and thin. Its time for ownership to give a little in return.
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Well he also banked on Huard and Thigpen..

How can one want to rebuild a team when you ignore your two most important positions...

QB and LT, We have lost our Brokie permantely..
Hmm, I guess I must have dreamed them picking up a LT with thier 2nd first round pick this year.
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