*****Official Chiefs vs Saints game thread*****

[Bwana]

Lets get it on!

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Coach

How much of this can be contributed to the poor coaching staff? Everybody (at least a majority of it) believes that it's the coaching staff.

I hear there's this "rookie wall" players hit about this time their first year.

And damned near 1/2 our team is rookies, so...

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

The criticism of Curl is ignorant. It is impossible to know for sure how good of a coach he is. But, what he has done with Thigpen has been very impressive.

Terry Shea gets all this credit for what? Coaching Trent Green, who was already developed?

oh, blow a goat.

every QB we've had has looked like crap with no improvement under Curl with the exception of Thigpen ... and thus far Thiggy has been doing it on mostly guts and athletic ability.

you want to blame Herm instead of Curl ... fine

but it's still the combination of curl/herm that has killed more QB's than Jack-the-Ripper did Ho's

[MIAdragon]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

And he's played very well in spots, too.

He's a rookie. Shut the **** up.

blow me bitch, the other corners were bagging groceries a few weeks ago why not pick on them.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm sorry I refuse to announce Thigpen as the man when he's had 2 good games 2 average games a couple bad games and hasn't won any games.

I don't know how you can even come close to knocking the fact he hasn't won any games with the defense we field every week.

Do I think he's the longterm answer? I'm not sure.

Would I feel comfortable with him going into the 2009 season as the starter? Absolutely.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by warrior

Very true we need a defense and a DC 6 sacks this season is rediculious.

I'll take Thigpen next year, draft defense get a RG and C for Oline.

HOW ABOUT A RIGHT TACKLE!?!

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Isn't it also concerning than the Chiefs have to use all these college gimmick type of sets to move the ball at all?

When the other teams see it for a half the Chiefs can't do anything....it's a serious problem when all of this stuff is on film the Chiefs may have a serious issue moving the ball at all.

If it works, don't change it. It's a rule of thumb. When the Chiefs did the buttsex offense, meaning running the ball up right behind the center's ass, it surely was working, was it?

Look, our PPG has increased with the new style of offense, compared to the buttsex offense.

We're moving the ball, which is great, regardless of what offensive formations/gimmicks, etc. We just can't stop anybody worth a damn.

[Johnny Vegas]

god this ****ing D line is an embarrassment. Absolutely no pressure on the QB again. Why the hell am I so surprised...

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Coach

How much of this can be contributed to the poor coaching staff? Everybody (at least a majority of it) believes that it's the coaching staff.

The guy just tightens up, either throwing the ball at WR's feet, under throwing them, or overthrowing them.

[Mecca]

And anyway unless we have the 1st pick we won't be having a QB debate, but if that happens the Chiefs shouldn't pass on a QB due to Thigpen that's my simple point.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Do I think he's the longterm answer? I'm not sure.

Would I feel comfortable with him going into the 2009 season as the starter? Absolutely.

Ditto.

Draft a QB and go into the season with Pigpen as the starter...

[The Bad Guy]

Now we have a defender of Dick Curl?

I wish all you ****ing idiots would form a cult of supporting garbage and subsequently kill yourselves.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by badmajama

god this ****ing D line is an embarrassment. Absolutely no pressure on the QB again. Why the hell am I so surprised...

The Dline, where Herm has used the majority of his high draft picks...think about that.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Rausch

There is no way in hell I want this staff picking and signing the 2nd overall pick.

NO WAY IN HELL...

I would much rather THIS staff picking than the staff that was here the five years prior.

Hali, Bowe, Dorsey and Albert.... pretty solid group of first rounders.

McBride, Pollard, Flowers..... very solid second round.

Croyle, Tyler, Charles, Morgan, Cottam.... again, pretty good. The one guy that is a problem is Croyle, and he has played pretty well when healthy.

The Chiefs have had three very solid years of drafting. That is the ONE thing that this staff has done well. In fact, that is one of the biggest reasons I think he should come back for one more year.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It has to do with most of the successful stuff in the offense being a gimmick, it stops working when it's been seen for awhile.

Yet, our defense has six sacks so far. You tell me what's the problem here. You tell me.

This discussion of Thigpen having issues/offensive gimmicks, etc, is bullshit.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

And anyway unless we have the 1st pick we won't be having a QB debate, but if that happens the Chiefs shouldn't pass on a QB due to Thigpen that's my simple point.

I was a supporter of Stafford at one time, but I hope to god we stay far away from him.