Biggest 10 needs in '09

[Mr. Laz]

1. RDE (no pass rush whatsoever)
2. RT (McIntsuck gives it up at least 3/4 times every game)
3. MLB (wanna buy someone who can tackle!!)
4. LDE (Hali should be a backup)
5. OLB (wanna buy someone who can tackle)
6. QB (thiggy looks good but ....... )
7. Center (Niswanger just can't seem to get any push at all)
8. CB (Flowers is hasty,Carr is a viable nickle, we need an athletic #1 guy)
9. Safety (Morgan? McGraw? geesh ... we need a stud back there)
10. RG/DT a tie ... we still need more talent in our interior lines


opinions?

[KCChiefsMan]

1. LDE - definately need a pass rush
2. MLB - ya
3. RG/RT - they just suck
4. FS/SS - need some better safeties
5. C - Rudy blows


I say we keep Thigpen and draft a backup in the 3rd round just in case Thiggy is a fluke

We should dip our fingers into free agency this year and if there are any good safeties/DE's we go for them.

I like Flowers/Carr so do we keep Surtain for nickle or go after one?

Offensive line - get a C, RG, RT a free agent or 2 that's not gonna be another McIntosh

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

I'm not saying it doesn't make sense for any team to take one, but it doesn't make sense for a team with more pressing needs. The 2010 draft would be an excellent time to take a LB in the 1st

BPA...

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You're talking about a team with over half the team starting that has 3 years of experience or less, and you're going to talk about ONE example of a rookie not playing over a veteran? Nevermind that Bowe held out of training camp and probably wasn't ready to start right away anyway?

Please. Lots of stuff to blame the coaching staff for. But I can't believe there is actually an accusation that they are hesitant to start youth over veteran experience.

YOU are the only person saying that.

I'm saying (as well as others) that they aren't playing the best players at certain positions, especially on the OL.

If you're naive enough to trust Herm on these types of decisions, go right ahead.

The entire right side of the line is a ****ing trainwreck, and has been the entire season.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Coach

While true on the last comment, now would be a good time to make the changes, as if you move Taylor to the C position, and slide Rudy to the RG spot, you may have solved two positions in one move that you may not need to select a high pick on. Of course, you will/should pick another G who can fill in Waters spot as I see Waters giving us at least two more years left. That way you got guys who played with each other for a little bit in the end of the 08 season, and something for them to build on towards the 09 season.

The RT problem can be addressed through FA or the Draft. Also, it depends on the development of Richardson as well.

This.

[Mecca]

Herm is putting guys like John McGraw on the field cause he's his good buddy...that's really the only way I can explain McGraw and Jones playing is that they are friends of Herms.

[Sully]

Taylor to C is a pipe dream.
Just because both positions are on the line, doesn't mean it's a good transition.

[whoman69]

We have so many needs, almost every position needs help. Good thing we have a rebuild.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Herm is putting guys like John McGraw on the field cause he's his good buddy...that's really the only way I can explain McGraw and Jones playing is that they are friends of Herms.

I agree, and both of them have no business on being the field. They both are special team players at best. That's all there is to it.

[Dark Horse]

Originally Posted by Rausch

BPA...

Without a pass rush and a consistent running game. It won't matter who's standing behind the line

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Herm is putting guys like John McGraw on the field cause he's his good buddy...that's really the only way I can explain McGraw and Jones playing is that they are friends of Herms.

Jones is playing at guard because there isn't an option otherwise.

McGraw has only played either in dime packages or if we've had a safety dinged up.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Well they also refuse to play Herb Taylor....

I think the Chiefs refuse to play anyone else on the line because they seem to think the same guys playing together is more important than benching a dude for blowing.

Yep I think this is the reason why

[Sully]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Jones is playing at guard because there isn't an option otherwise.

McGraw has only played either in dime packages or if we've had a safety dinged up.

Today McGraw played quite a bit at OLB.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

Without a pass rush and a consistent running game. It won't matter who's standing behind the line

Now this is true to an extent at the same time how many picks have the Chiefs used on defensive lineman and gotten no production in the first 3 rounds in the last oh 8 years?

It's a ridiculous ratio....

[Dark Horse]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Now this is true to an extent at the same time how many picks have the Chiefs used on defensive lineman and gotten no production in the first 3 rounds in the last oh 8 years?

It's a ridiculous ratio....

You had to bring facts into a perfectly irrational argument didn't you.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Sully

Taylor to C is a pipe dream.
Just because both positions are on the line, doesn't mean it's a good transition.

Actually, I disagree, and milkman explained out the reasons why I think it will work.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...6&postcount=32

Originally Posted by milkman

In watching him, he's not a guy that's going to get out in space and make a lot of blocks downfield, and he's not really your prototypical RT.

What he does well, as good as anyone I've watched, is get underneath the pads and use great leverage.

That is exactly what you want from a center.

He also seems really cerebral, another quaility that you look for in a center.