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Old 11-24-2008, 01:39 PM   #1
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Don't bring up Haynesworth...Dorsey and Haynesworth are nothing alike Haynesworth makes him look small he is several inches taller and 50lbs heavier.

I don't think Dorsey is a bad player, DTs do take time, but I do see a problem where he isn't big enough or strong enough so he needs to spend alot of time in the weight room in the offseason.

The league is going to the bigger 340lb DT now, those are the sought after guys...by having 2 undesized DT's like the Chiefs do it's almost like you're playing behind the curve the undersized fast DT was in 5 years ago but not now.
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Old 11-24-2008, 01:41 PM   #2
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Don't bring up Haynesworth...Dorsey and Haynesworth are nothing alike Haynesworth makes him look small he is several inches taller and 50lbs heavier.

I don't think Dorsey is a bad player, DTs do take time, but I do see a problem where he isn't big enough or strong enough so he needs to spend alot of time in the weight room in the offseason.

The league is going to the bigger 340lb DT now, those are the sought after guys...by having 2 undesized DT's like the Chiefs do it's almost like you're playing behind the curve the undersized fast DT was in 5 years ago but not now.
You didn't seem to be thinking this when you were saying the Chiefs should draft Sedrick Ellis.....
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Old 11-24-2008, 01:43 PM   #3
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You didn't seem to be thinking this when you were saying the Chiefs should draft Sedrick Ellis.....
I didn't say I had a problem with the pick....all rookie DT's will need to get bigger and stronger, even the really big guys.

I think Dorsey will be a fine player but I don't think they should be lining him up with another 300lb DT.
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Old 11-24-2008, 01:45 PM   #4
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I didn't say I had a problem with the pick....all rookie DT's will need to get bigger and stronger, even the really big guys.

I think Dorsey will be a fine player but I don't think they should be lining him up with another 300lb DT.
I said last night in another thread, I think we need to find a 330+ NT to line up next to Dorsey. For now I think we should have Tank and Dorsey switch places.
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Old 11-24-2008, 01:48 PM   #5
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I said last night in another thread, I think we need to find a 330+ NT to line up next to Dorsey. For now I think we should have Tank and Dorsey switch places.
I agree with that.....

Of course I don't think we'll see that because the Chiefs are still trying to run this Tampa 2 dinosaur that even Tampa Bay doesn't play anymore.
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Old 11-24-2008, 01:47 PM   #6
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I didn't say I had a problem with the pick....all rookie DT's will need to get bigger and stronger, even the really big guys.

I think Dorsey will be a fine player but I don't think they should be lining him up with another 300lb DT.
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Old 11-24-2008, 03:03 PM   #7
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You didn't seem to be thinking this when you were saying the Chiefs should draft Sedrick Ellis.....
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Don't bring up Haynesworth...Dorsey and Haynesworth are nothing alike Haynesworth makes him look small he is several inches taller and 50lbs heavier.

I don't think Dorsey is a bad player, DTs do take time, but I do see a problem where he isn't big enough or strong enough so he needs to spend alot of time in the weight room in the offseason.

The league is going to the bigger 340lb DT now, those are the sought after guys...by having 2 undesized DT's like the Chiefs do it's almost like you're playing behind the curve the undersized fast DT was in 5 years ago but not now.
He is 2 of the following:

not strong enough, nor quick enough. He had both coming out of college, but the NFL is a different game. He has to improve his strength and quickness to the NFL level.
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Old 11-24-2008, 01:49 PM   #9
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I think if he hits the weight room in the offseason, and gets both his knees back up to health in the offseason he will be fine.
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Old 11-24-2008, 01:50 PM   #10
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He also needs to use some more rips and swims. Too many times he is focused on bullrushing.
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Old 11-24-2008, 01:52 PM   #11
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He also needs to use some more rips and swims. Too many times he is focused on bullrushing.
He needs a Dline coach to help teach him that too.
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Old 11-24-2008, 02:29 PM   #12
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He needs a Dline coach to help teach him that too.
but coaching isn't everything. coaching won't help dorsey. FLAIL FLAIL, OMG, TEH FIRST ROUND BUST! ROOKIE BUST! OMGZ
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Old 11-24-2008, 01:58 PM   #13
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Plain and simple.

Another bust of a DT

JWhit is right about everything he said about Dorsey. I thought he was supposed to be the centerpiece around the DLine? "Supposively" supposed to be that difference maker?

Yeah

Not even close.
I never knew you were reeruned enough to proclaim a player a bust 11 games into his professional career. I'd say congratulations, but it just seems inappropriate.
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Who did Sapp have around him his rookie year?
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