Chiefs Dorsey sucks - Page 10

RedThat · 11-24-2008, 11:08 AM

Plain and simple.

Another bust of a DT

JWhit is right about everything he said about Dorsey. I thought he was supposed to be the centerpiece around the DLine? "Supposively" supposed to be that difference maker?

Yeah

Not even close.

RustShack · 11-24-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

no I dont see any probowler or rookie sapp in him at this point. i really don't. and if thats what people are expecting, then just know he has a REALLY long way to go to get there.

Im convinced that people compare him to sapp from what they saw from coming out of college. but he hasnt shown that in the nfl. And of course there is the stats, sapp had 27 tackles his rookie year, and 3 sacks....but but dorsey has 30 tackles and 1 sack. Therefore, he is already ahead of what sapp did and will be a good player? which imo is totally stupid

*the bottomline is, ive watched him these past 11 games, and have kept my eye on him, he doesnt possess the skills or qualities sapp had playing the DT position. He is far far from it.

I could be wrong, but I really doubt you watched and payed attention to every snap Sapp took as a rookie, or even remember it without getting mixed up with how he played later.

Brock · 11-24-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

everyone is entitled to an opinion asshole...there is a difference between accepting an opinion or just being an ignorant prick. Obviously you have a hard time accepting ones opinion

When the opinion is unforgiveably stupid, I don't accept it. It appears I'm not alone in thinking your opinion is beyond dumb. So I'm pretty sure it's not just me.

Mecca · 11-24-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

You didn't seem to be thinking this when you were saying the Chiefs should draft Sedrick Ellis.....

I didn't say I had a problem with the pick....all rookie DT's will need to get bigger and stronger, even the really big guys.

I think Dorsey will be a fine player but I don't think they should be lining him up with another 300lb DT.

RustShack · 11-24-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I didn't say I had a problem with the pick....all rookie DT's will need to get bigger and stronger, even the really big guys.

I think Dorsey will be a fine player but I don't think they should be lining him up with another 300lb DT.

I said last night in another thread, I think we need to find a 330+ NT to line up next to Dorsey. For now I think we should have Tank and Dorsey switch places.

RedThat · 11-24-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Don't bring up Haynesworth...Dorsey and Haynesworth are nothing alike Haynesworth makes him look small he is several inches taller and 50lbs heavier.

I don't think Dorsey is a bad player, DTs do take time, but I do see a problem where he isn't big enough or strong enough so he needs to spend alot of time in the weight room in the offseason.

The league is going to the bigger 340lb DT now, those are the sought after guys...by having 2 undesized DT's like the Chiefs do it's almost like you're playing behind the curve the undersized fast DT was in 5 years ago but not now.

He is 2 of the following:

not strong enough, nor quick enough. He had both coming out of college, but the NFL is a different game. He has to improve his strength and quickness to the NFL level.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-24-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I didn't say I had a problem with the pick....all rookie DT's will need to get bigger and stronger, even the really big guys.

I think Dorsey will be a fine player but I don't think they should be lining him up with another 300lb DT.

'Tis the curse of the Tampa 2, the in vogue defense from the days when Corduroy jeans were all the rage among high school kids.

Mecca · 11-24-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I said last night in another thread, I think we need to find a 330+ NT to line up next to Dorsey. For now I think we should have Tank and Dorsey switch places.

I agree with that.....

Of course I don't think we'll see that because the Chiefs are still trying to run this Tampa 2 dinosaur that even Tampa Bay doesn't play anymore.

RustShack · 11-24-2008, 01:49 PM

I think if he hits the weight room in the offseason, and gets both his knees back up to health in the offseason he will be fine.

RustShack · 11-24-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I agree with that.....

Of course I don't think we'll see that because the Chiefs are still trying to run this Tampa 2 dinosaur that even Tampa Bay doesn't play anymore.

We can only hope Herm takes the same approach with defense next year that he took with the offense this year. Hire a DC and let him do his thing!

RedThat · 11-24-2008, 01:50 PM

He also needs to use some more rips and swims. Too many times he is focused on bullrushing.

RustShack · 11-24-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

He also needs to use some more rips and swims. Too many times he is focused on bullrushing.

He needs a Dline coach to help teach him that too.

Mecca · 11-24-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

We can only hope Herm takes the same approach with defense next year that he took with the offense this year. Hire a DC and let him do his thing!

No way Herm plays a different defense, he tried to play it with the Jets when they had 3-4 players.

RustShack · 11-24-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

No way Herm plays a different defense, he tried to play it with the Jets when they had 3-4 players.

Well I don't agree that the Jets had 3-4 players while Herm was there, but yeah I knew Herm wont leave the Tampa two. I just hope he at least bring in a staff that can run it. Drafting a huge DT in the later rounds would be nice though, since we don't run the T2 every down.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 11-24-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

Plain and simple.

Another bust of a DT

JWhit is right about everything he said about Dorsey. I thought he was supposed to be the centerpiece around the DLine? "Supposively" supposed to be that difference maker?

Yeah

Not even close.

I never knew you were reeruned enough to proclaim a player a bust 11 games into his professional career. I'd say congratulations, but it just seems inappropriate.

Mecca · 11-24-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Well I don't agree that the Jets had 3-4 players while Herm was there, but yeah I knew Herm wont leave the Tampa two. I just hope he at least bring in a staff that can run it. Drafting a huge DT in the later rounds would be nice though, since we don't run the T2 every down.

He came in after Parcells....John Abraham was an OLB the year before Herm got there.

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