Chiefs Go on the record: Who do you want as GM and Head Coach? - Page 4

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-16-2008, 05:38 PM

Time to make some decisions, folks.

No lists, pick ONE GM.

PLEASE make this realistic. A current GM making a lateral move is not realistic.

Also: Pick a HC that you think would be a realistic choice of your GM.

Post bios if you wish.

I'll start:

GM: Eric DeCosta, 37, Director Of College Scouting, Baltimore Ravens.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Peopl...c_DeCosta.aspx

HC: Rex Ryan, 46, Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator, Baltimore Ravens.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Peopl.../Rex_Ryan.aspx

**The Bad Guy** · 12-16-2008, 06:07 PM

I would also be for the scenario that OTW said. Ryan could help get Suggs here.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-16-2008, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

We don't have rush backers for a 3-4....and if anyone suggest Tamba Hali as a rush backer I'll back hand them.

It's not a huge deal because we need a bunch of new front 7 players and pass rushers either way.

So you draft them and sign them in FA. This isn't a short term deal, we're looking long-term.

And like you said, out front 7 needs an overhaul anyway.

Now is the time.

Mecca · 12-16-2008, 06:09 PM

We'd have to find a nose tackle, that would probably be the biggest thing.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-16-2008, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

We don't have Haloti Ngata. He's one of the five most valuable defensive players in the league. He lets that defense do anything it wants because he's such a friggin monster.

Doesn't mean we couldn't acquire someone like him. It's not gonna be perfect right out of the box.

But like I said, if your going to do it, now is the time, since you need to blow up the front 7 anyway.

And again, Ryan has experience in the 4-3 and 4-6 as well.

Bringing him in does not guarantee the 3-4 being implemented. He'd take a look at the current personnel, and move forward accordingly.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-16-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Doesn't mean we couldn't acquire someone like him. It's not gonna be perfect right out of the box.

But like I said, if your going to do it, now is the time, since you need to blow up the front 7 anyway.

And again, Ryan has experience in the 4-3 and 4-6 as well.

Bringing him in does not guarantee the 3-4 being implemented. He'd take a look at the current personnel, and move forward accordingly.

Is it worth it to you to basically give up on Dorsey after one year?

KChiefs1 · 12-16-2008, 06:11 PM

GM - Eric DeCosta
HC - in this order:

• Bill Cowher -- If, as expected, he chooses to peel off his TV persona and end his two-year hiatus from the sideline, the former Steelers coach will essentially have his pick of the openings. Cleveland would roll out the red carpet for him, and Detroit could be an intriguing possibility as well.

• Steve Spagnuolo -- The Giants defensive coordinator will be in high demand for a second-consecutive offseason, especially if New York rides the wave all the way to another Super Bowl appearance. St. Louis is one team known to be in the market for a defensive-oriented head coach.

• Jim Schwartz -- After strong interviews last offseason in Washington, Miami and Atlanta, Schwartz is nearly assured of parlaying the success of Tennessee's defense into a No. 1 job this time around. He's smart, articulate, extremely well prepared, and his coaching pedigree includes having worked for both Bill Belichick and Jeff Fisher.

• Josh McDaniels -- The Patriots 32-year-old offensive coordinator has only enhanced his résumé this season, proving he can craft successful game plans with or without league MVP Tom Brady at quarterback. It might take just the right situation for McDaniels to leave Foxboro, but I could see the Chargers, led by Patriots-envying general manager A.J. Smith, being an enticing option.

• Jason Garrett -- No surprise here, but if the curtain falls on the Wade Phillips era in Dallas, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones will toss the keys to Garrett, who he kept away from both Baltimore and Atlanta last offseason with just such a plan of succession in mind.

**Bowser** · 12-16-2008, 06:14 PM

I want no part of Jason Garrett here.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-16-2008, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

We'd have to find a nose tackle, that would probably be the biggest thing.

Tank Johnson is a FA.

He's not a long-term solution, but it'd be a start.

**wazu** · 12-16-2008, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jidar

I don't know enough to have an opinion.

I feel the same way as far as specifics, but have some basic rules I hope Clark follows. So far he has said he is going to follow all the things I had for GM.

My Thoughts:

GM

1. Nobody from within the organization
2. No coaches who want to become GMs (a la Schottenheimer)

Coach

1. Search the pro ranks for a top assistant (like McDaniels)
2. Cowher is the only "retread" that sounds good at all.
3. Pick somebody smarter than Shanahan. (Unless it's Cowher. I don't think he's smarter than Shanahan, but he's good anyway.)

chiefzilla1501 · 12-16-2008, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

We don't have rush backers for a 3-4....and if anyone suggest Tamba Hali as a rush backer I'll back hand them.

It's not a huge deal because we need a bunch of new front 7 players and pass rushers either way.

Exactly We need two new pass rushers anyway, and rush backers are a hell of a lot easier to find than a stud DE who can both rush the passer AND stop the run AND guard the pass.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-16-2008, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Is it worth it to you to basically give up on Dorsey after one year?

You wouldn't. Dorsey would do just fine as a 3-4 DE.

RedThat · 12-16-2008, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

We'd have to find a nose tackle, that would probably be the biggest thing.

Ahhh I say Just frikk'n keep feeding those guys some sick diets.

Its not hard for a Dlineman to gain weight?

All we need is a nice 370 pound pig.

They gotta feed one of those guys Ron Edwards, Alphonso boone, or even Glenn Dorsey? they're all pig potential.

Simple eat 6 meals a day.

Breakfast get up eat a carton of eggs with a pack of bacon. with a loaf of bread and a bucket of orange juice.

then for snacks, 1 dozen of krispy creme donuts with a 2 litres of pop

lunch, 1 whole turkey with a bucket of potatoes and 2 bowls of salad. AND a 6 pack of beer.

Then snacks again, 1 dozen of krispy creme donuts

dinner, 75-100 chicken wings with a bucket of fries

snacks again, 5 bags of chips

1 whole chocolate cake before bed

follow this for a 1 month and they'll put on 30 pounds easy. Thats they gotta do. And were worried about finding a NT? Come on now!

RedThat · 12-16-2008, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You wouldn't. Dorsey would do just fine as a 3-4 DE.

i think so too

Direckshun · 12-16-2008, 06:20 PM

I'm okay with DeCosta, but Polian is exactly where I am at all times. There is no better way to embrace the man's model than by picking him up personally.

As for HC... Rex Ryan is not a good fit for me, because he's still primarily a 3-4 guy. I prefer the 4-3 over the 3-4, and guys who have to make the transition from the latter to the former can struggle. And I think it would simply take too many years to transition this defense to the 3-4. What are we talking about -- a minimum of four years, at LEAST. I know Ryan's worked with multiple defenses, but he prefers the 3-4, he's worked with it primarily for years, so he's out for me.

McDaniels is overrated, as I believe much of the Patriots front office is, because that whole organization has made a career out of unusual personnel moves that are simply too risky to work for us.

Steve Spagnuolo is my favorite HC prospect right now. The pass rush that his expertise has engineered is one of the top three in the league.

I'm willing to have sex with my mother if it meant grabbing Polian and Spagnuolo as a result, but I'm happy enough with Polian, if we can somehow work him over here. Yet another reason why I support keeping Herm for a little while -- his relationship with Dungy just might make this franchise attractive to Polian.

**The Franchise** · 12-16-2008, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

GM - Eric DeCosta
HC - in this order:

• Jim Schwartz -- After strong interviews last offseason in Washington, Miami and Atlanta, Schwartz is nearly assured of parlaying the success of Tennessee's defense into a No. 1 job this time around. He's smart, articulate, extremely well prepared, and his coaching pedigree includes having worked for both Bill Belichick and Jeff Fisher.

This.

12-16-2008, 05:38 PM
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2051115	Go on the record: Who do you want as GM and Head Coach? Time to make some decisions, folks. No lists, pick ONE GM. PLEASE make this realistic. A current GM making a lateral move is not realistic. Also: Pick a HC that you think would be a realistic choice of your GM. Post bios if you wish. I'll start: GM: Eric DeCosta, 37, Director Of College Scouting, Baltimore Ravens. http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Peopl...c_DeCosta.aspx HC: Rex Ryan, 46, Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator, Baltimore Ravens. http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Peopl.../Rex_Ryan.aspx
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KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	GM - Eric DeCosta HC - in this order: • Bill Cowher -- If, as expected, he chooses to peel off his TV persona and end his two-year hiatus from the sideline, the former Steelers coach will essentially have his pick of the openings. Cleveland would roll out the red carpet for him, and Detroit could be an intriguing possibility as well. • Steve Spagnuolo -- The Giants defensive coordinator will be in high demand for a second-consecutive offseason, especially if New York rides the wave all the way to another Super Bowl appearance. St. Louis is one team known to be in the market for a defensive-oriented head coach. • Jim Schwartz -- After strong interviews last offseason in Washington, Miami and Atlanta, Schwartz is nearly assured of parlaying the success of Tennessee's defense into a No. 1 job this time around. He's smart, articulate, extremely well prepared, and his coaching pedigree includes having worked for both Bill Belichick and Jeff Fisher. • Josh McDaniels -- The Patriots 32-year-old offensive coordinator has only enhanced his résumé this season, proving he can craft successful game plans with or without league MVP Tom Brady at quarterback. It might take just the right situation for McDaniels to leave Foxboro, but I could see the Chargers, led by Patriots-envying general manager A.J. Smith, being an enticing option. • Jason Garrett -- No surprise here, but if the curtain falls on the Wade Phillips era in Dallas, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones will toss the keys to Garrett, who he kept away from both Baltimore and Atlanta last offseason with just such a plan of succession in mind. __________________
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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	I'm okay with DeCosta, but Polian is exactly where I am at all times. There is no better way to embrace the man's model than by picking him up personally. As for HC... Rex Ryan is not a good fit for me, because he's still primarily a 3-4 guy. I prefer the 4-3 over the 3-4, and guys who have to make the transition from the latter to the former can struggle. And I think it would simply take too many years to transition this defense to the 3-4. What are we talking about -- a minimum of four years, at LEAST. I know Ryan's worked with multiple defenses, but he prefers the 3-4, he's worked with it primarily for years, so he's out for me. McDaniels is overrated, as I believe much of the Patriots front office is, because that whole organization has made a career out of unusual personnel moves that are simply too risky to work for us. Steve Spagnuolo is my favorite HC prospect right now. The pass rush that his expertise has engineered is one of the top three in the league. I'm willing to have sex with my mother if it meant grabbing Polian and Spagnuolo as a result, but I'm happy enough with Polian, if we can somehow work him over here. Yet another reason why I support keeping Herm for a little while -- his relationship with Dungy just might make this franchise attractive to Polian.
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