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Old 12-16-2008, 07:10 PM  
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Nick Athan.."Herm is 50/50 on coming back"

On the sports spot right now.

What are the requirements to get hired at WPI?

I mean, a 50/50 chance....Athan must have some real inside connections.
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:33 PM   #31
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And we will be waiting, His talent evaluation is leaving alot to be desired to say the least...
Dorsey
Albert
Flowers
Carr
Cox
Leggett
Charles
Cottam


Yep, all those guys just suck and have no future, right?
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:34 PM   #32
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Dorsey
Albert
Flowers
Carr
Cox
Leggett
Charles
Cottam


Yep, all those guys just suck and have no future, right?
kuharic(sp)?? did he have ANYTHING to do with it?
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:35 PM   #33
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Flowers, Carr, Leggett, Dorsey. That's four rookie starters from ONE draft (the draft that HE controlled). More than likely, at least two of those players will be future Pro Bowlers. Tank Tyler and Turk McBride are both close to making an impact (though McBride belongs inside IMO).

The Chiefs drafted like shit for nearly 20 years. You can't expect Herm to create a great offense or defense with one year of his choices.
I think he's had a lot of say in the draft all 3 years. Hali seems to have been his guy, for example. Regarding the first four players you've listed, Flowers is the only player I'd bet on at this point.

I wasn't a fan of Grandpa, but he had the offense up and rolling in the same period of time, and he didn't inherit a powerhouse.
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:36 PM   #34
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I'm of the mind that HE has started the rebuild and the new GM might give him a shot to see it through next year at least. The 50/50 quote might not be too far off. I can see Gun losing his job and Chan staying since the O has shown some improvement. The ST coordinator needs to be ran out of town first.
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:36 PM   #35
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Nick is a poor man's Bob Gretz. I have been in the PR office when Nick comes through and he sucks up to everyone and will write whatever the Chiefs PR department tells him to.

At least Gretz was a reporter and later columnist with a major market daily newspaper.
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:37 PM   #36
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I'm of the mind that HE has started the rebuild and the new GM might give him a shot to see it through next year at least. The 50/50 quote might not be too far off. I can see Gun losing his job and Chan staying since the O has shown some improvement. The ST coordinator needs to be ran out of town NOW.
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:38 PM   #37
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Dorsey
Albert
Flowers
Carr
Cox
Leggett
Charles
Cottam


Yep, all those guys just suck and have no future, right?
You can pick and choose the guys you want to use to prop up Herm and one could pick and choose the guys that havent panneded out.. Not including the FA signings that have worked out so well in the LB corps...

2006
Hali
Pollard
Croyle
Maxey

2007
mcbride
tyler
K smith
medlock

2008
Morgan
franklin
richardson
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:40 PM   #38
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This isn't much of a debate, IMO. If a new GM is hired and Herm is still the coach, this situation will officially be fubar. And I'm not saying this as a knock on Edwards.

New GM must have the right to get his guy.
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:41 PM   #39
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Dorsey
Albert
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Carr
Cox
Leggett
Charles
Cottam


Yep, all those guys just suck and have no future, right?
Kind of hard to slam him on that list ain't it?

My only problem with Herm is the lack of the Marty-style toughness.

Herm seems to want to run a Marty type team with a DV mentality.

Marty never cried after a game. That we know of anyway.
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:41 PM   #40
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This isn't much of a debate, IMO. If a new GM is hired and Herm is still the coach, this situation will officially be fubar. And I'm not saying this as a knock on Edwards.

New GM must have the right to get his guy.
Any other way and the GM starts off as a lame duck and cant be taken seriously...
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I'm of the mind that HE has started the rebuild and the new GM might give him a shot to see it through next year at least. The 50/50 quote might not be too far off. I can see Gun losing his job and Chan staying since the O has shown some improvement. The ST coordinator needs to be ran out of town first.
I can't see how any of our defensive coaches are even going to be considered?
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You can pick and choose the guys you want to use to prop up Herm and one could pick and choose the guys that havent panneded out.. Not including the FA signings that have worked out so well in the LB corps...

2006
Hali
Pollard
Croyle
Maxey

2007
mcbride
tyler
K smith
medlock

2008
Morgan
franklin
richardson
Hali=Fine if you play him at his position
Pollard= meh
McBride=jury still out
Tyler=potential but waning
Franklin? As in the WR Franklin? = Just ****ing fine with me.
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I can't see how any of our defensive coaches are even going to be considered?
Considered to be retained? Herm says that if he's back, they're back, too.

Beyond this, this tables the development of a QB for another year. And before we go down this road, everyone is going to have to accept that the pistol probably isn't the long-term answer.
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:46 PM   #44
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You can pick and choose the guys you want to use to prop up Herm and one could pick and choose the guys that havent panneded out.. Not including the FA signings that have worked out so well in the LB corps...

2006
Hali
Pollard
Croyle
Maxey

2007
mcbride
tyler
K smith
medlock

2008
Morgan
franklin
richardson
Wow, you really don't get it, do you?

Yeah, let's bust Herm for a couple of 5th and 6th round picks like Medlock, Richardson and Maxey.

JFC.

And to state that Hali has been a bust, along with Tyler and McBride (and Kolby Smith - WTF?) is INSANE.

To even MENTION Morgan, when he's been injured this year and Richardson, who's a sixth round rookie says to me that either you don't understand the draft or you don't understand the NFL.

Wow.
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Franklin? As in the WR Franklin? = Just ****ing fine with me.
Yeah, I agree. That was the most dominating 3 for 24 performance that I've ever seen.
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