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Old 12-18-2008, 12:16 PM  
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:04 PM   #121
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I didnt buy into Herm being a great defensive mind and excellent talent mastermind that he was labelled when he arrived...

So far, major disappointment, IF ANYTHING, ANYTHING he shoud of been able to fix this defense, his mouth told us so. We are a franchise worse defense. I am sick of all the excuses, injury excuses and lack of talent because he sucks at drafting OL and DL.... Dorsey was a sure thing and a immediate impact player according to the Chiefs and Herm...

Winners always find away to win, Losers look for excuses and blame everyone else.
Yeah, anyone can fix a defense when you trade away your best player.

EVERYONE knows that.
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:05 PM   #122
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You know, Rerun, I completely respect you for admitting that. A lot of guys feel the same way you do and won't actually own up to it, instead pretending like they're being objective.
I havent changed my stance on Herm from day one, I dont trust him to be honest, he has no self respect or any integerity... IF he had any of those, he would accept responsiblity, yet year after year, his bus looks like a meat grinder...

Its sad and troubling to say the least.
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:05 PM   #123
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Putting a guy you think is smallish and not strong enough to play OT at guard is really smart when teams are going to the 340lb DT...
So then you're of the opinion that Taylor doesn't belong on the field anywhere?

He's 6'3, 295 and from all accounts, he's not a beast in the weight room.

So where do you play him?
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:05 PM   #124
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Are you disagreeing with me about Taylor?

The Chiefs HAVE played him right guard in certain situations. He's received a holding call and an offsides call at right guard.

IF the Chiefs didn't have Albert or Waters, Taylor would be on the field.
So he's only capable of playing on the left side?

Because we have jack-****ing-shit at C, RG and RT, yet the kid only gets spot duty.

At this point in the year, he should be starting SOMEWHERE.

You play your best 5 OLmen.

You can't tell me with a straight face that Taylor isn't at least our 3rd or 4th best OLman.

The season ended 7 weeks ago, get him on the ****ing field and see what the **** he can do.
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:07 PM   #125
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So he's only capable of playing on the left side?

Because we have jack-****ing-shit at C, RG and RT, yet the kid only gets spot duty.

At this point in the year, he should be starting SOMEWHERE.

You play your best 5 OLmen.

You can't tell me with a straight face that Taylor isn't at least our 3rd or 4th best OLman.

The season ended 7 weeks ago, get him on the ****ing field and see what the **** he can do.
You are aware that they are two different positions and require a different skill set and body type, right?

He's filled in at right tackle and right guard this season. Has he impressed you? He hasn't impressed me.

At left tackle, I thought he was outstanding.
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:10 PM   #126
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Yeah, anyone can fix a defense when you trade away your best player.

EVERYONE knows that.
Excuses, there are always excuses for Herm...

Carl did this, we traded this, our team lacks talent, you cant fix a team in 3 years, blah blah blah blah blah.....

Like I said, Winners will find a way to win, Losers make excuses and blames everyone else.

Just for once I would like Herm to step and say, You know what? This game is on me, My decessions cost this team the game, I am sorry and will resolve the issue... I am willing to accept responsibility....

But if you believe Herm has the integerity to stand up and accept blame, I have some chickens to sell you....
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:11 PM   #127
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You are aware that they are two different positions and require a different skill set and body type, right?

He's filled in at right tackle and right guard this season. Has he impressed you? He hasn't impressed me.

At left tackle, I thought he was outstanding.
It's hard to impress anyone when you get a series here and there.

ZERO continuity.

And FWIW, he showed more in very limited duty than McIntosh, Jones or Smith have shown all year...

Also, Ryan Harris is one of the best young RT in the league.

His size?

6'4" 300 pounds.
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:13 PM   #128
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:13 PM   #129
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You are aware that they are two different positions and require a different skill set and body type, right?

He's filled in at right tackle and right guard this season. Has he impressed you? He hasn't impressed me.

At left tackle, I thought he was outstanding.
But the older people at RG or RT arent impressing any of us either, so what does it hurt to get time on the field?
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:13 PM   #130
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Excuses, there are always excuses for Herm...

Carl did this, we traded this, our team lacks talent, you cant fix a team in 3 years, blah blah blah blah blah.....

Like I said, Winners will find a way to win, Losers make excuses and blames everyone else.

Just for once I would like Herm to step and say, You know what? This game is on me, My decessions cost this team the game, I am sorry and will resolve the issue... I am willing to accept responsibility....

But if you believe Herm has the integerity to stand up and accept blame, I have some chickens to sell you....
Is this that accountability thing that Herm often references? Hmm...now doesn't that seem ironic. Isn't one of his favorite lines, "Players need to make plays."? Translation: "I didn't do it! Don't look at me! They were prepared! I can't coach 'em and catch it, too!"
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It's hard to impress anyone when you get a series here and there.

ZERO continuity.

And FWIW, he showed more in very limited duty than McIntosh, Jones or Smith have shown all year...

Also, Ryan Harris is one of the best young RT in the league.

His size?

6'4" 300 pounds.
So let me get this straight: The Chiefs are playing every young guy on the roster that's ready to play but in your opinion, they're not playing Herb because why again?

It doesn't make sense. It's just like those people clamoring for Barry Richardson. If either were ready to handle the chore of starting full-time, they'd be out there.

And FWIW, I like Smith better than Jones and Smith better than the 'Wanger at center.
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:14 PM   #132
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But the older people at RG or RT arent impressing any of us either, so what does it hurt to get time on the field?
Taylor has been getting time at both positions but apparently, it's not enough for some.
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The Chiefs are playing every young guy on the roster that's ready to play
Don't agree.

Cottam needs more reps. I realize that the absence of Gonzo for a series or two might cause Thigpen to piss himself, but we have more pants in the locker room. Charles needs more touches. LJ might get pissed, but I have a blow-up doll that he could toss/slap around when the trainer is looking for new pants for our #4. I ask only that he wipe her off when he's done.

If Morgan can't get on the field a bit more with the impressive dual of Page and Pollard, well, that pick is looking like shit.
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Is this that accountability thing that Herm often references? Hmm...now doesn't that seem ironic. Isn't one of his favorite lines, "Players need to make plays."? Translation: "I didn't do it! Don't look at me! They were prepared! I can't coach 'em and catch it, too!"
Exactly.... It really is disappointing that the leader of this team just gives up on his players to protect himself... I guess its anything to save his own skin...
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So let me get this straight: The Chiefs are playing every young guy on the roster that's ready to play but in your opinion, they're not playing Herb because why again?

It doesn't make sense. It's just like those people clamoring for Barry Richardson. If either were ready to handle the chore of starting full-time, they'd be out there.

And FWIW, I like Smith better than Jones and Smith better than the 'Wanger at center.
You give far too much credit to this coaching staff to maximize talent.

Tamba Hali basically licked balls for several weeks before this genius staff thought it would be a good idea to put him back into his most comfortable spot.
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