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Old 12-22-2008, 07:22 PM   #1
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We don't make stuff in the US anymore. Real goods means real money. Only so many people can make money shuffling paper debt or in a service related capacity.

Publicly traded corporations have their stocks upgraded or downgraded based on earnings expectations. Who does the grading? Banks. The bulk of the corporations are still generating income. The primary stockholders (the ones that can sell their options, buying company stock at a huge discount vs market price) are the ones the most influence on employment. Those folks' discounted stock price comes at the expense of those who are employed at the corporation.

Check the board of directors of most the corporations, and you'll find that they hold a board seat at other corporations. Many, many, people are losing jobs because of the choice few that hold those seats of companies that still can earn income will full work forces in those companies.

So far as you personally, LiL stumppy, there's no shame in attending trade school in lieu of college, and there's no shame in joining the military.
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Old 12-22-2008, 07:26 PM   #2
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We don't make stuff in the US anymore. Real goods means real money. Only so many people can make money shuffling paper debt or in a service related capacity.

Publicly traded corporations have their stocks upgraded or downgraded based on earnings expectations. Who does the grading? Banks. The bulk of the corporations are still generating income. The primary stockholders (the ones that can sell their options, buying company stock at a huge discount vs market price) are the ones the most influence on employment. Those folks' discounted stock price comes at the expense of those who are employed at the corporation.

Check the board of directors of most the corporations, and you'll find that they hold a board seat at other corporations. Many, many, people are losing jobs because of the choice few that hold those seats of companies that still can earn income will full work forces in those companies.

So far as you personally, LiL stumppy, there's no shame in attending trade school in lieu of college, and there's no shame in joining the military.
I would call that a smart move
always be a need for carpenters*
electrians - plumbers - mechanics ect
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Old 12-22-2008, 07:30 PM   #3
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We don't make stuff in the US anymore. Real goods means real money. Only so many people can make money shuffling paper debt or in a service related capacity.
Simply wonderful, and something that has to be part of any "recovery" (for lack of a better word).

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So far as you personally, LiL stumppy, there's no shame in attending trade school in lieu of college, and there's no shame in joining the military.


In many ways, college is ridiculously overrated. I loved it, but there are times I wish I had gone to Wyoming Tech and built cars for a living.

One must also note that attending college and getting an education are NOT necessarily the same thing.

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Old 12-22-2008, 07:34 PM   #4
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Simply wonderful, and something that has to be part of any "recovery" (for lack of a better word).





In many ways, college is ridiculously overrated. I loved it, but there are times I wish I had gone to Wyoming Tech and built cars for a living.

One must also note that attending college and getting an education are NOT necessarily the same thing.

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Old 12-22-2008, 07:44 PM   #5
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I wish I had taken autobody
could have taken a half day in highschool
but nooooooooooooo
I'm a motor man myself -- still want to learn how to rebuild a carburetor.

Although, I can spell "carburetor," so I got that going for me ...

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Old 12-22-2008, 08:44 PM   #6
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I'm a motor man myself -- still want to learn how to rebuild a carburetor.

Although, I can spell "carburetor," so I got that going for me ...

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Are they even making carburetors any more? Everything is injected now.
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Old 12-22-2008, 08:45 PM   #7
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Are they even making carburetors any more? Everything is injected now.
As long as he's interested in the lucrative field of lawn mower repair, he's golden.
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Old 12-22-2008, 08:46 PM   #8
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Are they even making carburetors any more? Everything is injected now.
You can't even buy a carb from GM anymore. They're all discontinued. You have to take a number off the body and call an aftermarket place like O'Rielley's.
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Old 12-22-2008, 07:45 PM   #9
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We don't make stuff in the US anymore. Real goods means real money. Only so many people can make money shuffling paper debt or in a service related capacity.
Meh. Not really.
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