Herm Edwards needs to finish what he started

[Chieftain58]

Throwing Herm Edwards out now would be a step backwards. He started this youth movement and needs 1 more year to prove himself. If he fails so be it but give the guy a chance he has created a competetive team that looks good for the most part except for the pass rush. He has done alot of positive on our team.

(1) He has found a potential QB of the Future
(2) Great Corners and Safeties
(3) Offense is clicking and improving
(4) Offensive line is good
(5) Made us the youngest team in the league

Herm is a great motivator and the players love him even if the fans don't. Throwing him out now would create another year of rebuilding in the new image of the new Coach and set us back another year.

(flame away)

[Micjones]

I'm sorry, but Herm can be excused from the table.

We can find another coach who can properly evaluate his player's strengths and set them up to be successful.

[BigChiefFan]

$3 million per year for a total of 15 wins in THREE YEARS. In the past two years, Herm has LOST 75% of the time... that stinks to high heaven and it's ridiculous that some can't connect the dots and see this man for what he is... a weak-ass coach, in over his head.

[Monty]

Originally Posted by Donger

I'm convinced Herm created and uses the "young team" as an excuse for not winning.

This

[The Franchise]

Can we merge this thread with the Epic Fail thread?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

You want Herm to stay? Take it up with the new GM. I have a feeling it's going to take him about two seconds to determine Herm's fate.

I really wonder about those who want Herm to stay. Only explanation I can come up with is that they are die-hard smash-mouth fans, and even though Herm's experiment with a return to that type of football was an absolute disaster (we were getting outgained by 200-300 yards per game), Herm supporters still think the best chance of playing that type of football is with Herm Edwards as coach.

Peter King's interview with Clark:

Talking to new Kansas City Chiefs owner Clark Hunt, you get the impression he wants to keep coach Herman Edwards for the fourth and final season of his contract -- but won't stand in the way if a strong-willed general manager wants to make a coaching change.

With King Carl Peterson out as president and general manager, Hunt plans to hire two people in his place: a general manager who will have full authority over the football side of the team and a club president to run the business side. The latter will be a vital hire in this economy because the Chiefs in 2010 open a rehabbed Arrowhead Stadium with 50 additional luxury suites and 7,000 new club seats.

But for now, Hunt, son of the late Lamar Hunt, will look for a Scott Pioli or Charley Casserly to run his team and help determine the fate of Edwards.

"I'm looking for a shrewd evaluator of football talent," Hunt told me. "He's got to be a strong leader, effective communicator, and preferably will come from a winning organization. I don't have a short list right now. I have a very broad list, but I expect to start interviewing soon after the [regular] season."

Hunt said he was "very supportive of Herm, because I believe he's gone about the building of this team the right way. The new general manager will have input [about Edwards' future], and the decision whether to keep him will be mine, but I will listen to what the new GM has to say about it."

I asked whether he would consider hiring a GM who would want full authority over all things football, including the hiring and firing of the head coach. Hunt paused for a moment, then said: "I'm going to be open-minded about that. It's possible that we'll give our GM that authority."

I asked because I would think many of the top GM candidates, such as Pioli, would say, "Why would I leave where I am for a place that gives me control over the draft and the roster but not over the one man with the most control over whether the players I bring him succeed or fail?" Hunt will probably have to cede that authority.

Edwards told me Sunday that he wanted to stay next year, and for the foreseeable future. "I wish we'd started the rebuilding project a year earlier," Edwards said. "I'd love to be the guy to lead this team for a long time. We're building a good, solid base of talent."

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I think the new GM, whoever he is, is going to have a steep hill to climb in order to fire Herm Edwards. Clark clearly supports him and the direction that the team has taken in 2008.

Regardless of all the "Haters" in the forum.

[BigChiefFan]

Yes, let's IGNORE this part of the SAME ARTICLE..."Hunt will probably have to cede that authority."

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Yes, let's IGNORE this part of the SAME ARTICLE..."Hunt will probably have to cede that authority."

What?

That was Peter King's speculation. Clark did not say that.

BIG difference.

[triple]

if herm does not get fired, i will disown this team until he does

[Otter]

Season 1: 9-7
Season 2: 4-12
Season 3: 2-14

Dude is a loser. Ask any Jets fan.

[Bob Dole]

Bob Dole fully understands the concepts that allow a commercial jet to fly. That does NOT mean that you want Bob Dole piloting your next cross-Atlantic flight.

[prhom]

I'll premise my post with this comment: while it has been hard to watch this team for most of Herm's tenure as HC, I have found it less awful to watch since the offense actually opened up recently. So thanks to whoever made the decision to spread the offense and at least try to make the opposing defense guess what we are going to do.

There may be lots of people who are actually responsible for us sucking so hard (Solari, Gunther, Carl) besides Herm. I just don't know enough of who is truly in control of each aspect of the game to lay blame on the proper person, but really the buck stops with Herm. Sadly, this is the downside of being an HC. You get credit for winning or losing regardless of whether you actually have anything to do with either one. After the last couple losses I'm not sure if Herm is going to have what it takes to get this team to win. We won the SD and Miami games statwise, but we lost it because we didn't use momentum and our defense had no spirit when it needed it.

[Crush]

ONLY FOUR MORE DAYS UNTIL BLACK MONDAY!!!!!

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Chieftain58

Throwing Herm Edwards out now would be a step backwards. He started this youth movement and needs 1 more year to prove himself. If he fails so be it but give the guy a chance he has created a competetive team that looks good for the most part except for the pass rush. He has done alot of positive on our team.

(1) He has found a potential QB of the Future
(2) Great Corners and Safeties
(3) Offense is clicking and improving
(4) Offensive line is good
(5) Made us the youngest team in the league

Herm is a great motivator and the players love him even if the fans don't. Throwing him out now would create another year of rebuilding in the new image of the new Coach and set us back another year.

(flame away)

Number one, kindly shoot yourself in the face.

Number two, Merry Christmas!

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What?

That was Peter King's speculation. Clark did not say that.

BIG difference.

It was speculated, because anybody that knows how it works, KNOWS that a coveted GM won't accept 6 wins out of the past 31 games as someone to hitch your wagon to. If Clark is serious about getting a REAL GM, he'll have to let the man do his job and that will entail kicking Herm's ass to the curb-sorry, but his record as the Chiefs coach is unacceptable, rebuild or not.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

It was speculated, because anybody that knows how it works, KNOWS that a coveted GM won't accept 6 wins out of the past 31 games as someone to hitch your wagon to. If Clark is serious about getting a REAL GM, he'll have to let the man do his job and that will entail kicking Herm's ass to the curb-sorry, but his record as the Chiefs coach is unacceptable, rebuild or not.

Really? Wow, thanks for your insight into Peter King's comment.

As I stated, it certainly appears that firing Edwards will be a monumental task for an incoming GM due to Clark's admiration for his work.