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Old 12-29-2008, 02:58 PM  
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810 vs 610 on Thigy

So this afternoon I am driving around and I hear KK going off abou tThigy not being the man and such. Ok, commercial comes so I flip to 610. On 610 they are arguing that Thigy deserves a shot and pointing out the stats pre and post Thigy and such.

You almost wonder if they plan this shit? Anyhow, if KK is so staunch in his opposition of Thigy then I say we definitely need to give Thigy a shot.

So this seems it will be the ongoing argument over the next several weeks. Some people are going to be very pissed off come draft time when we make our first selection.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:35 PM   #106
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how injury prone was Trent Green when he played for us? the o line STILL got him killed
Actually before coming here Trent Green had gotten injured....

Here's the truth people had said this and it happened, Green played behind a great line that afforded him alot of time but he always held the ball to long. Many of us said when the line got worse he would get ear holed.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:35 PM   #107
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Are we still talking about the Chiefs? The 32nd ranked defense Chiefs? The Chiefs who had all of 10 sacks all year? The Chiefs who gave up 300+ yard like it was going out of style?
The team has more than 1 draft pick you know...it's not like we're gonna draft 5 QB's.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:36 PM   #108
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Actually before coming here Trent Green had gotten injured....

Here's the truth people had said this and it happened, Green played behind a great line that afforded him alot of time but he always held the ball to long. Many of us said when the line got worse he would get ear holed.
The only QB who did better than Green unde DV, save his 1st year, was Manning.

Again, it was not Trent Green who lost the playoff game for us. That would be the lack of defense.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:37 PM   #109
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The only QB who did better than Green unde DV, save his 1st year, was Manning.

Again, it was not Trent Green who lost the playoff game for us. That would be the lack of defense.
Didn't say it was but Green was a part of a system when the system broke down so did he.

With that offense it was just the defense that was a problem, today it's basically the entire team.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:38 PM   #110
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Actually before coming here Trent Green had gotten injured....
Here's the truth people had said this and it happened, Green played behind a great line that afforded him alot of time but he always held the ball to long. Many of us said when the line got worse he would get ear holed.
ummmm i knew that hence the WHEN HE PLAYED HERE in my quote, still our offensive line got him killed right? you acted like it was just croyle and huard
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:38 PM   #111
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Cause we need help everywhere else! A franchise QB isn't going to keep the other team from scoring. A franchise QB isn't going to set a record for the least amount of sacks. We have tried the "out score them" plan and it didn't work.

Thigy played well enough to win several of his starts if we had a defense to protect the lead. And if we had a RB who could pick up 1 ****ing yard when we need it to keep the drives going.
We can still get that help also. It's one pick, and a high one. This may be your only chance for a long time to be put into a position like this, you have to take the chance. We can work on the rest of the stuff with the other picks and free agency. This opportunity might not show itself for sometime, and they both may be gone when pick anyhow, or one, or both may not come out. Bet your ass though if one of them are there at #3, they have to take that chance.

Thigy can compete for the job, he will lose, but he has earned that.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:39 PM   #112
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ummmm i knew that hence the WHEN HE PLAYED HERE in my quote, still our offensive line got him killed right? you acted like it was just croyle and huard
Trent Green hasn't been here for 2 seasons....why are we even talking about him the team is completely different now.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:39 PM   #113
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Cincy does not have a better defense than Miami does especially when half of their starters didn't play.
right now throw this week out and look at those stats again(this week the team gave up)
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Didn't say it was but Green was a part of a system when the system broke down so did he.

With that offense it was just the defense that was a problem, today it's basically the entire team.
So in other words, you are agreeing that had the journeyman Green had a defense to support him we would of won in the playoffs?

And I agree the ENTIRE TEAM SUCKS. Which is why I would rather see us get someone on the defensive line or MLB rather than a QB when the QB we have has put up enough points to win a game.
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We can still get that help also. It's one pick, and a high one. This may be your only chance for a long time to be put into a position like this, you have to take the chance. We can work on the rest of the stuff with the other picks and free agency. This opportunity might not show itself for sometime, and they both may be gone when pick anyhow, or one, or both may not come out. Bet your ass though if one of them are there at #3, they have to take that chance.

Thigy can compete for the job, he will lose, but he has earned that.
I am going to laugh my ass off if we draft Stafford and we go 2-14 BECAUSE of the QB.
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Trent Green hasn't been here for 2 seasons....why are we even talking about him the team is completely different now.
we are talking about qbs getting hurt behind our offensive line right?
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So in other words, you are agreeing that had the journeyman Green had a defense to support him we would of won in the playoffs?

And I agree the ENTIRE TEAM SUCKS. Which is why I would rather see us get someone on the defensive line or MLB rather than a QB when the QB we have has put up enough points to win a game.
How good of a defense are we talking....

The QB is a problem because it is the most important position on the field and by the way, where is this DE you are seeing that is gonna change the game? There is no Peppers or Mario Williams in this years draft.

You don't wanna pull a Rams and take Chris Long who looks to be a Justin Smith kind of player.
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I am going to laugh my ass off if we draft Stafford and we go 2-14 BECAUSE of the QB.
And people say that I only care about being right...
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do you guys think that the high ranked qb's are all going to come out this year when the NFL said yesterday that the rookie salary is going to stay the same until AFTER next year. therefore ANY change will NOT effect the underclassmen this year
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If you feel you are for a fact top 5 pick you should leave, you risk losing draft position or getting injured if you don't...you drop 5 spots you just cost yourself atleast 20 million dollars.
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