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Old 01-06-2009, 09:30 AM  
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Michael Smith on 810 Just said...

New (unsubstantiated) rumor:

-Marty Schottenheimer as Personnel GM
-Jimmy Raye as co-GM (like Miami)
-Cam Cameron as coach

OH LAWD.

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Old 01-06-2009, 02:04 PM   #76
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I would like almost anyone for the job over Cameron. He seems completely overwhelmed with any more responsibility than a coordinator position.
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Of all the names thrown around Cameron is by far the worst. He's been an epic failure everytime he's been a head coach. Hell is he arguably worse than Herm.

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Old 01-06-2009, 02:07 PM   #77
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Shanahan is "not" a good GM that is what got him fired. The "umpteenmillion D coordinators" Shanny went through were his 'fall guys' to blame and his last 'fall guy' was Sundquist the "figure head psuedo" GM he fired at the beginning of the summer. I can almost assure you that Bowlen still wanted Shanny as his coach but told Mike he needs help making better "draft choices" and bringing people in who are not "yes people" who truly know how to build defenses. Mike didn't want that and now Mike is gone.

If we want the same issues Denver has dealt with these past 10yrs then bring in Shanny. Shanny is the best strategical preparer and playcaller for offenses "hands down" I agree. Yes it will be far more entertaining on the offensive side of the ball getting an average of 8-10wins a year. But there is the flipside of not getting to the playoffs because of consistent "poor drafts" which result in "bad defenses" regardless of what coordinators you have in there if we let "one person" call all the shots.

I really believe we have suffered the same scenario these past 10yrs as well just from the "GM side" of things. Do we really think that Dick didn't realize that we needed better D players in here so that our 2003-2004 runs could have resulted in potential SBs if we would have just had "mediocre D"s? Of course he knew, but I believe Carl chose not to improve our D side of the ball by either drafting bad or signing FAs on the cheap which cost us SBs IMO.

I don't want the "single entity" calling all the shots either in GM or head coach EVER!!
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:09 PM   #78
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Precisely!

Shanahan is "not" a good GM that is what got him fired. The "umpteenmillion D coordinators" Shanny went through were his 'fall guys' to blame and his last 'fall guy' was Sundquist the "figure head psuedo" GM he fired at the beginning of the summer. I can almost assure you that Bowlen still wanted Shanny as his coach but told Mike he needs help making better "draft choices" and bringing people in who are not "yes people" who truly know how to build defenses. Mike didn't want that and now Mike is gone.

If we want the same issues Denver has dealt with these past 10yrs then bring in Shanny. Shanny is the best strategical preparer and playcaller for offenses "hands down" I agree. Yes it will be far more entertaining on the offensive side of the ball getting an average of 8-10wins a year. But there is the flipside of not getting to the playoffs because of consistent "poor drafts" which result in "bad defenses" regardless of what coordinators you have in there if we let "one person" call all the shots.

I really believe we have suffered the same scenario these past 10yrs as well just from the "GM side" of things. Do we really think that Dick didn't realize that we needed better D players in here so that our 2003-2004 runs could have resulted in potential SBs if we would have just had "mediocre D"s? Of course he knew, but I believe Carl chose not to improve our D side of the ball by either drafting bad or signing FAs on the cheap which cost us SBs IMO.

I don't want the "single entity" calling all the shots either in GM or head coach EVER!!
The hiring of the Rat would be like a mass-infection of erectile dysfunction throughout the Chiefs Nation.
I would be SO uninterested in this team. And that would suck.
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Fellas! Read closely again! This is not about what your opinion is politically and how the election fared out. This is about the "stealth approach"! Which is 'ALWAYS' good.
That was my point! I didn't put my political view in that post at all! I just stated a fact. McCain lost. And I believe that if you use losers in your examples that you make people have a negative attitude towards it before they give it a chance!
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:15 PM   #81
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Cam is a mediocre coach at best... I was at IU for the end of his tenure and he was just lucky that Randle El was such an athlete. You couldn't pay students to go to the games there. Just bad.
it was IU, how is that Cams fault?
I mean seriously The football team has always sucked, and now who would want to play basketball there? they suck as well.
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The hiring of the Rat would be like a mass-infection of erectile dysfunction throughout the Chiefs Nation.
I would be SO uninterested in this team. And that would suck.
Especially if you're Claythan (you were talking about how people think you two are the same in another thread)... cause writing about something that you're uniterested in would be a terrible job.
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Especially if you're Claythan (you were talking about how people think you two are the same in another thread)... cause writing about something that you're uniterested in would be a terrible job.
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Clark's quiet search must be driving those ESPN heads bonkers.
You make the assumption ESPN would report about the Chiefs, even if they did have information.
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:26 PM   #85
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it was IU, how is that Cams fault?
I mean seriously The football team has always sucked
So did MU, KU, Northwestern, Vandy, etc but GOOD head coaches turned them around. Cameron has shown no ability beyond being a good OC.
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There's almost no news coming out of KC. If the big dogs can't get anything out of them - not even news about interviews, how does a localy only known reporter able to get all the potential hirings out of them?
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Michael Smith is one of the "big dogs", and I'm sure he's grasping at straws, but he's certainly not a locally-only known reporter.
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You make the assumption ESPN would report about the Chiefs, even if they did have information.
They wouldn't but since it's Pioli they would.
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They wouldn't but since it's Pioli they would.
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That was my point! I didn't put my political view in that post at all! I just stated a fact. McCain lost. And I believe that if you use losers in your examples that you make people have a negative attitude towards it before they give it a chance!

I used "McCain" to show how much he took the "majority liberal press" by surprise which pissed them off using the stealth approach. I see your point about "perception" but I used "McCain(regardless of winner or loser) to show how you stealth the media. Should have clarified better.
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So did MU, KU, Northwestern, Vandy, etc but GOOD head coaches turned them around. Cameron has shown no ability beyond being a good OC.
Same can be said of Norv Turner for that matter as well. Chargers will not make it to the SB Count on it!!
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