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Old 01-14-2009, 08:01 AM   #1
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The Chiefs’ wild-card berth that season delayed Edwards’ plan to overhaul an aging team, and by the time his program was fully put into place this year, he tried to implement it with too much youth too soon and failed.
I can't wait until this excuse machine is gone.

First, any coach who changes their offseason plan because backed into the playoffs and gave one of the most embarrassing performance in NFL playoff history is a complete moron.

Secondly, and more importantly, the talk about a delay in blowing up the roster is a red herring. You ****ing have to have a 53 man roster no matter what. Where are you going to get the players to fill the roster after you have blown it up? Every team blows up their roster every year. If the team sucks, drafts well, then it's possible for a large roster turnover. Herm had his 2006 draft, hence his opportunity to remake the roster to a certain extent.

You're going to see what a real roster makeover is with Pioli, and we are not going to be a bad team while in the midst of it. Herm / Carl were imcompetent. End of story. We've moved on.
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:13 AM   #2
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I can't wait until this excuse machine is gone.

First, any coach who changes their offseason plan because backed into the playoffs and gave one of the most embarrassing performance in NFL playoff history is a complete moron.

Secondly, and more importantly, the talk about a delay in blowing up the roster is a red herring. You ****ing have to have a 53 man roster no matter what. Where are you going to get the players to fill the roster after you have blown it up? Every team blows up their roster every year. If the team sucks, drafts well, then it's possible for a large roster turnover. Herm had his 2006 draft, hence his opportunity to remake the roster to a certain extent.

You're going to see what a real roster makeover is with Pioli, and we are not going to be a bad team while in the midst of it. Herm / Carl were imcompetent. End of story. We've moved on.
Amen. I'm ready for the rest of the trash to be taken out.
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:53 AM   #3
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I disagree with Bowe having a "spotty" start to his career. QB and O-Line situation considered, I think he's been a damn good player. Sure there have been some drops at some bad times. But drafting Bowe has not been a mistake at all.
I thought Bowe was really good as a rookie, but fell off this past year. But, the real question about Herm's drafting is who did he pass on to get Bowe. This is where Pioli comes in ... I expect him to select the better guy most of the time (no GM is perfect).

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I can't wait until this excuse machine is gone.

First, any coach who changes their offseason plan because backed into the playoffs and gave one of the most embarrassing performance in NFL playoff history is a complete moron.

Secondly, and more importantly, the talk about a delay in blowing up the roster is a red herring. You ****ing have to have a 53 man roster no matter what. Where are you going to get the players to fill the roster after you have blown it up? Every team blows up their roster every year. If the team sucks, drafts well, then it's possible for a large roster turnover. Herm had his 2006 draft, hence his opportunity to remake the roster to a certain extent.

You're going to see what a real roster makeover is with Pioli, and we are not going to be a bad team while in the midst of it. Herm / Carl were imcompetent. End of story. We've moved on.
Let me be honest, I wanted Herm to come in, leave the offense alone or in capable hands, fix the defense (he is a defensive coach) and lead us to victory ... kinda like Dungy. He didn't. He changed offensive philosophy after the first game. But, that aside, he should have evaluated the talent when he arrived. If it was is such a mess, the rebuild should have started as soon as he arrived. They simply wasted too much time before they started. That demonstrates his ability as coach. I know Kingless had a lot to do with it, but the delay was the problem.
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Old 01-14-2009, 11:56 AM   #4
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Let me be honest, I wanted Herm to come in, leave the offense alone or in capable hands, fix the defense (he is a defensive coach) and lead us to victory ... kinda like Dungy.
I wouldn't say that Dungy did a lot of good with the D in Indy. They never came came close to the D they had in Tampa. Had he actually been able to come close to the Tampa D he had there, he would have walked away with more than one ring.
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:44 AM   #5
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I can't wait until this excuse machine is gone.

First, any coach who changes their offseason plan because backed into the playoffs and gave one of the most embarrassing performance in NFL playoff history is a complete moron.

Secondly, and more importantly, the talk about a delay in blowing up the roster is a red herring. You ****ing have to have a 53 man roster no matter what. Where are you going to get the players to fill the roster after you have blown it up? Every team blows up their roster every year. If the team sucks, drafts well, then it's possible for a large roster turnover. Herm had his 2006 draft, hence his opportunity to remake the roster to a certain extent.

You're going to see what a real roster makeover is with Pioli, and we are not going to be a bad team while in the midst of it. Herm / Carl were imcompetent. End of story. We've moved on.
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