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ChiefsCountry · 01-13-2009, 11:46 PM

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Hiring of Pioli puts the Chiefs in the Hunt again
Jason Whitlock

We have no more questions about Clark Hunt’s commitment to winning the Super Bowl.

By landing the biggest fish in the NFL’s off-season ocean — Patriots front-office guru Scott Pioli — Hunt told us everything we need to know about his desire to win at the highest level.

Clark Hunt is as passionate and committed as the most fanatic Chiefs fan.

You pierce your costume with arrows on game day, wear red on Fridays, decorate your basement with Chiefs apparel, rock Priest Holmes jerseys throughout the week, tolerate taxes to renovate Arrowhead Stadium and pay $22 to tailgate before exhibition games.

Clark Hunt appreciates all that. But he wants you to recognize he just spent a fortune to eliminate the stench of Carl Peterson and make the Chiefs Super Bowl contenders again.

We thought dethroning King Carl was a big deal. Luring Pioli to replace Peterson is much, much bigger.

There is no way to guarantee Pioli will be a success. The longtime Bill Belichick right-hand man might be as fraudulent as Romeo Crennel, Charlie Weis, Eric Mangini and the other Belichick clones who failed once they left the Patriots coach’s shadow and cashed in.

I like Pioli — a lot. He’s young, confident, disciplined, smart and he’s certainly been in the right organization.

But when it comes to the Patriots and success, we just don’t know where Belichick ends and everybody else begins. The Patriots are like the Jackson 5, and Belichick is Michael Jackson. Crennel and Weis proved to be Tito and Jackie.

Is Pioli the next Jermaine Jackson, who had a solid solo career? Or, better yet, is Pioli the next Janet Jackson, a megastar just waiting for the opportunity to shine?

We don’t know. And we won’t know for a couple of years. We’ll need to see how he drafts, whether he can find a legitimate quarterback of the future for the Chiefs, whether he can hire his own version of Belichick.

(Oops, I’m assuming that Herm Edwards will be relieved of his duties.)

What we know for sure is that ownership is going to provide Pioli with everything he needs to be successful.

There’s no way Pioli takes the job without those assurances. He had a great deal of leverage entering this off-season. The Cleveland Browns wanted to make him their general manager. The Lions were initially interested. Pioli could’ve stayed with the Patriots and waited for the perfect situation.

He got it here. He took this job because he found an owner ready to do things the Patriots way. He found an owner ready to match his level of commitment.

You don’t leave Belichick and all those Super Bowl rings unless you believe you’ve discovered a place where you believe you can do the same thing. Oh, I’m sure the money is awesome. I’m sure the Pioli family is set.

But Pioli has no interest in being Weis or Crennel. They’re laughingstocks. They’re known as football men who were great Belichick puppets and nothing else. One of life’s toughest tasks is recovering a lost reputation.

Pioli has a great rep. He’s risking a lot leaving the Belichick nest. He didn’t do it blindly or with dollar signs dancing in his head.

He did it thinking about creating his own legacy and with playoff victories dancing in his head.

Pioli and Hunt recruited each other. Pioli had to convince Hunt that he had a plan to fix the Chiefs. And Hunt had to convince Pioli that he was willing to support that plan.

For two decades under Peterson’s rule and Lamar Hunt’s budget, the Chiefs shopped for bargains in their pursuit of a championship. Peterson grabbed Marcus Allen and Joe Montana at the end of their careers. Peterson snagged underappreciated veterans such as Dan Saleaumua and James Hasty.

Only once can I remember Peterson stepping out and paying top dollar for a big-time free agent. He gave his football godfather Dick Vermeil a golden parachute. Peterson spent lavishly on assistants and Vermeil’s dream of building an offense superior to Mike Martz’s.

It worked.

Well, now Clark Hunt has stepped out and grabbed the most elite name in front-office magic.

And with this move, Hunt has boldly stated only the best and brightest are good enough for the Chiefs.

That’s just what we needed to hear.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-14-2009, 01:12 AM

And STILL no Clark Hunt appreciation thread on the front page of The Lounge?

DCS is saddened by this.

That said, Whitlock, in his roundabout the Jackson Family way, hit it right on the head.

I don't think the casual NFL fan of the other franchises realizes what they're about to get hit with.
Everybody's talking about drafting and that's great. But what Scott also brings is massive credibility in acquiring the best free agents available. Kansas City is now "A Place To Be".

Expect a turnaround of Miami proportions or greater for 2009 at the very least.

Ebolapox · 01-14-2009, 01:13 AM

Chris Rock: [on Jermaine Jackson] What is up with Jermaine? Is it just me or is he the greasiest ****a you ever seen? Just greasy mother****er looking like he sprayed Armoral on his face! Just glistening... like Patrick Ewing in the fourth quarter! When Jermaine is on the TV, I got wipe the screen! "I can't see shit! Jermaine must've been on!" Even the police can't catch his ass. He just slips out! They're like "Somebody throw some sand on that ****a please!" I thought we were done with Jermaine! I got the "Do what you did when you did what you did to me" album!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-14-2009, 01:32 AM

I never KNEW that was Jermaine singing that song!

Mecca · 01-14-2009, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What a bunch of horseshit conjecture.

Gee, thanks JWhit for introducing Chiefs fans to the most successful GM of this decade.

As if we aren't already aware.

You probably have no idea how many people will read his column or loosely follow that Chiefs that have no clue who Scott Pioli is, sad but true.

Ebolapox · 01-14-2009, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

You probably have no idea how many people will read his column or loosely follow that Chiefs that have no clue who Scott Pioli is, sad but true.

sad thing is, my pops (who raised me to be a chiefs fan) had no clue who pioli was/is.

Spicy McHaggis · 01-14-2009, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

If Pioli is the next Janet Jackson, I don't want to be there for the "wardrobe malfunction."

If Pioli wins KC a Super Bowl he could walk nude around the Plaza and I won't say a damn thing.

Mecca · 01-14-2009, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H5N1

sad thing is, my pops (who raised me to be a chiefs fan) had no clue who pioli was/is.

Lots of people just follow the Chiefs so they really have no idea who these other people are.

teedubya · 01-14-2009, 02:53 AM

I have discovered this to be true as well, Mecca. Neither my Dad, brother, friend from high school, etc... have any idea who the guy is.

We are football fanatics here... most people aren't. This is an article that needed to be written.

FloridaMan88 · 01-14-2009, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan

Be nice if Whitlock would eat some crow on Herm. He never has.

The same could be said about Wargarbage Illustrated and all the flowery articles written about Herm, Croyle, etc.

beach tribe · 01-14-2009, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

And STILL no Clark Hunt appreciation thread on the front page of The Lounge?

DCS is saddened by this.

That said, Whitlock, in his roundabout the Jackson Family way, hit it right on the head.

I don't think the casual NFL fan of the other franchises realizes what they're about to get hit with.
Everybody's talking about drafting and that's great. But what Scott also brings is massive credibility in acquiring the best free agents available. Kansas City is now "A Place To Be".

Expect a turnaround of Miami proportions or greater for 2009 at the very least.

I started one yesterday.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=200212

Ebolapox · 01-14-2009, 07:12 AM

yeah--the lack of overall knowledge of the 'casual' fan is likely what keeps dumbasses from propping up WPI.

KCJohnny · 01-14-2009, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

But when it comes to the Patriots and success, we just don’t know where Belichick ends and everybody else begins. The Patriots are like the Jackson 5, and Belichick is Michael Jackson. Crennel and Weis proved to be Tito and Jackie.

.

I think many of would agree that Brady is MJ. Belichick was a sub .500 coach until he stumbled onto Brady, a 6th round pick from U Mich.

Leave it up to Whitlock to compare the Patriots to the J5.

**Donger** · 01-14-2009, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan

Be nice if Whitlock would eat some crow on Herm. He never has.

What was his take on Herm when he was hired?

Time's Yours · 01-14-2009, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H5N1

sad thing is, my pops (who raised me to be a chiefs fan) had no clue who pioli was/is.

I don't think its sad. You can enjoy football without making it your #1 dedicated hobby. I enjoy my other hobbies a little more (tinkering with cars and skiing/snowboarding) because I can actually control the outcome. You can analyze the NFL to death, but in the end, it really doesn't matter what you think.

If it wasn't for me coming to ChiefsPlanet for news and more informed opinions, I would have never heard of Pioli. I think its safe to say I'm in the vast majority of Kansas Citians.

Whitlock knows his readership base is not the extremely serious message board fan. If he was writing for most of you guys, I'm sure his articles would be a lot more technical and a lot less stating the obvious and stirring the pot.

**Dave Lane** · 01-14-2009, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan

Be nice if Whitlock would eat some crow on Herm. He never has.

Maybe once the axe drops

01-13-2009, 11:46 PM
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $1998752	Whitlock - Hiring of Pioli puts the Chiefs in the Hunt again http://www.kansascity.com/sports/col...ry/980160.html Hiring of Pioli puts the Chiefs in the Hunt again Jason Whitlock We have no more questions about Clark Hunt’s commitment to winning the Super Bowl. By landing the biggest fish in the NFL’s off-season ocean — Patriots front-office guru Scott Pioli — Hunt told us everything we need to know about his desire to win at the highest level. Clark Hunt is as passionate and committed as the most fanatic Chiefs fan. You pierce your costume with arrows on game day, wear red on Fridays, decorate your basement with Chiefs apparel, rock Priest Holmes jerseys throughout the week, tolerate taxes to renovate Arrowhead Stadium and pay $22 to tailgate before exhibition games. Clark Hunt appreciates all that. But he wants you to recognize he just spent a fortune to eliminate the stench of Carl Peterson and make the Chiefs Super Bowl contenders again. We thought dethroning King Carl was a big deal. Luring Pioli to replace Peterson is much, much bigger. There is no way to guarantee Pioli will be a success. The longtime Bill Belichick right-hand man might be as fraudulent as Romeo Crennel, Charlie Weis, Eric Mangini and the other Belichick clones who failed once they left the Patriots coach’s shadow and cashed in. I like Pioli — a lot. He’s young, confident, disciplined, smart and he’s certainly been in the right organization. But when it comes to the Patriots and success, we just don’t know where Belichick ends and everybody else begins. The Patriots are like the Jackson 5, and Belichick is Michael Jackson. Crennel and Weis proved to be Tito and Jackie. Is Pioli the next Jermaine Jackson, who had a solid solo career? Or, better yet, is Pioli the next Janet Jackson, a megastar just waiting for the opportunity to shine? We don’t know. And we won’t know for a couple of years. We’ll need to see how he drafts, whether he can find a legitimate quarterback of the future for the Chiefs, whether he can hire his own version of Belichick. (Oops, I’m assuming that Herm Edwards will be relieved of his duties.) What we know for sure is that ownership is going to provide Pioli with everything he needs to be successful. There’s no way Pioli takes the job without those assurances. He had a great deal of leverage entering this off-season. The Cleveland Browns wanted to make him their general manager. The Lions were initially interested. Pioli could’ve stayed with the Patriots and waited for the perfect situation. He got it here. He took this job because he found an owner ready to do things the Patriots way. He found an owner ready to match his level of commitment. You don’t leave Belichick and all those Super Bowl rings unless you believe you’ve discovered a place where you believe you can do the same thing. Oh, I’m sure the money is awesome. I’m sure the Pioli family is set. But Pioli has no interest in being Weis or Crennel. They’re laughingstocks. They’re known as football men who were great Belichick puppets and nothing else. One of life’s toughest tasks is recovering a lost reputation. Pioli has a great rep. He’s risking a lot leaving the Belichick nest. He didn’t do it blindly or with dollar signs dancing in his head. He did it thinking about creating his own legacy and with playoff victories dancing in his head. Pioli and Hunt recruited each other. Pioli had to convince Hunt that he had a plan to fix the Chiefs. And Hunt had to convince Pioli that he was willing to support that plan. For two decades under Peterson’s rule and Lamar Hunt’s budget, the Chiefs shopped for bargains in their pursuit of a championship. Peterson grabbed Marcus Allen and Joe Montana at the end of their careers. Peterson snagged underappreciated veterans such as Dan Saleaumua and James Hasty. Only once can I remember Peterson stepping out and paying top dollar for a big-time free agent. He gave his football godfather Dick Vermeil a golden parachute. Peterson spent lavishly on assistants and Vermeil’s dream of building an offense superior to Mike Martz’s. It worked. Well, now Clark Hunt has stepped out and grabbed the most elite name in front-office magic. And with this move, Hunt has boldly stated only the best and brightest are good enough for the Chiefs. That’s just what we needed to hear.
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01-14-2009, 01:12 AM	#16
Sweet Daddy Hate Unsparing Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	And STILL no Clark Hunt appreciation thread on the front page of The Lounge? DCS is saddened by this. That said, Whitlock, in his roundabout the Jackson Family way, hit it right on the head. I don't think the casual NFL fan of the other franchises realizes what they're about to get hit with. Everybody's talking about drafting and that's great. But what Scott also brings is massive credibility in acquiring the best free agents available. Kansas City is now "A Place To Be". Expect a turnaround of Miami proportions or greater for 2009 at the very least. __________________ 1. Merciless, severe. 2. Given freely and generously. 100% refusal to overrate 20 year Head Coaches with ZERO **ing rings as a Head Coach. CP's Official Professor of 'Dem Blues for 2019/2020!**
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01-14-2009, 01:13 AM	#17
Ebolapox remember, remember Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: como Casino cash: $1769903	Chris Rock: [on Jermaine Jackson] What is up with Jermaine? Is it just me or is he the greasiest **a you ever seen? Just greasy motherer looking like he sprayed Armoral on his face! Just glistening... like Patrick Ewing in the fourth quarter! When Jermaine is on the TV, I got wipe the screen! "I can't see shit! Jermaine must've been on!" Even the police can't catch his ass. He just slips out! They're like "Somebody throw some sand on that **a please!" I thought we were done with Jermaine! I got the "Do what you did when you did what you did to me" album!
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01-14-2009, 01:32 AM	#18
Sweet Daddy Hate Unsparing Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	I never KNEW that was Jermaine singing that song! __________________ 1. Merciless, severe. 2. Given freely and generously. 100% refusal to overrate 20 year Head Coaches with ZERO **ing rings as a Head Coach. CP's Official Professor of 'Dem Blues for 2019/2020!**
Posts: 77,135

01-14-2009, 02:53 AM	#23
teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9470002	I have discovered this to be true as well, Mecca. Neither my Dad, brother, friend from high school, etc... have any idea who the guy is. We are football fanatics here... most people aren't. This is an article that needed to be written.
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01-14-2009, 07:12 AM	#26
Ebolapox remember, remember Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: como Casino cash: $1769903	yeah--the lack of overall knowledge of the 'casual' fan is likely what keeps dumbasses from propping up WPI.
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