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[The Franchise]

November 6th 2008.

1st round - Kansas City Chiefs: Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
If you're not a Chiefs fan, chances are you won't know this. OK, guess how many sacks Kansas City's defense has as a whole this season.

Fifteen? Way off. Ten? Nope. Five? Not even!

The Chiefs have four sacks on the year! Four freaking sacks! They foolishly traded away Jared Allen prior to the 2008 Draft, while moving Tamba Hali to right end failed miserably. Hali, now back at left end, needs a dominant pass-rusher across from him to once again play at his 2007 level.

That man can be Brian Orakpo. Through nine games, Orakpo has 13.5 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks, as he's established himself as the premier defensive end in this draft class. Kansas City's young defense would greatly benefit from having him rushing the opposing quarterback.

Quarterback was an option, but Tyler Thigpen has played extremely well the past two weeks, so the Chiefs could have something with him.


2nd round - Kansas City Chiefs: Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
Napoleon Harris was Kansas City's middle linebacker when the season began. That failed miserably, as Harris was cut a few weeks ago. Pat Thomas took Harris' spot, and based on Kansas City's defensive rankings - click here for accurate NFL Run, Pass Defensive Rankings - it hasn't exactly worked out too well.


3rd round - Kansas City Chiefs: Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State
If Tyler Thigpen keeps improving and proves to be Kansas City's quarterback of the future, he'll need another receiver to throw to besides Dwayne Bowe. Bowe and Derrick Williams would be an awesome receiver combination, assuming the latter pans out.

[jeffp12]

Remember when the Chiefs had Willie Roaf at LT and John Tait at RT. I know we didn't draft Roaf, but in 2003 we were 13-3 and had a first round bye with those two guys. I am sure there are more examples but that's off the top of my head.

There are so many examples of teams that can win consistently without HOF or top drafted QBs. They aren't as necessary to winning as Defense is. So I say you focus on making a great defense. You know the trend with TEs, theres so many good ones now, Gates, Winslow, Gonzalez. They have changed the position, you don't think a coverage LB isn't going to be helpful?

HEre's my positon chart:

DE, OT, DT, G/C, QB, LB, S, WR, CB, HB, TE, FB, K/P.

You get great big guys up front and it makes everyone else better.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Mecca

LOL, well New england actually finished 6th in the league in rushing but the truth is people just look at Cassells stats they don't realize he has ****ing Randy Moss on his team, and Wes Welker the Pats lead the league in YAC yards this year..he also took more than double the sacks Brady did..

With Brady NE is winning the Superbowl, this year I have no doubt about it without him they're watching at home.

NE's passing game set up the rushing game, not vice-versa, though. And its the principle of the matter.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by jeffp12

Remember when the Chiefs had Willie Roaf at LT and John Tait at RT. I know we didn't draft Roaf, but in 2003 we were 13-3 and had a first round bye with those two guys. I am sure there are more examples but that's off the top of my head.

There are so many examples of teams that can win consistently without HOF or top drafted QBs. They aren't as necessary to winning as Defense is. So I say you focus on making a great defense. You know the trend with TEs, theres so many good ones now, Gates, Winslow, Gonzalez. They have changed the position, you don't think a coverage LB isn't going to be helpful?

HEre's my positon chart:

DE, OT, DT, G/C, QB, LB, S, WR, CB, HB, TE, FB, K/P.

You get great big guys up front and it makes everyone else better.

Remind me of a team that didn't win a playoff game...and had 1 great regular season...great strategy.

You think of guards and centers way to highly...they are not the 2nd most important position on offense that is absurd.

[jeffp12]

Yeah Randy Moss helps a ton, but I think the Offensive line is the most important aspect of New Englands Success. They can keep their QB upright. And if they want to try to run the ball they can do it well. Their D wasn't great this year, but it was solid. Point is, Brady goes down and they plug in a guy who hasn't started since high school and they go 11-5, and you're telling me QB is the best way to spend a pick. I'm taking a guy to keep any QB upright, whoever it might be, or a guy to put the other teams QB on his butt.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by jeffp12

Remember when the Chiefs had Willie Roaf at LT and John Tait at RT. I know we didn't draft Roaf, but in 2003 we were 13-3 and had a first round bye with those two guys. I am sure there are more examples but that's off the top of my head.

There are so many examples of teams that can win consistently without HOF or top drafted QBs. They aren't as necessary to winning as Defense is. So I say you focus on making a great defense. You know the trend with TEs, theres so many good ones now, Gates, Winslow, Gonzalez. They have changed the position, you don't think a coverage LB isn't going to be helpful?

HEre's my positon chart:

DE, OT, DT, G/C, QB, LB, S, WR, CB, HB, TE, FB, K/P.

You get great big guys up front and it makes everyone else better.

Jesus. You have a messed up set of priorities, sir.
T1: OT, DE, QB, DT
T2: OLB, CB, WR, S
T3: G, C, ILB, HB, TE
T4: K, P, FB

[Mecca]

He's basically telling you Will Shields is more important than John Elway, think of how absurd that is.

I think you guys both devalue secondary positions way to much though.

[jeffp12]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Remind me of a team that didn't win a playoff game...and had 1 great regular season...great strategy.

You think of guards and centers way to highly...they are not the 2nd most important position on offense that is absurd.

Yeah, didn't win a playoff game because they're defense sucked. Against the Peyton Manning Colts, the only playoff game ever without a punt because it was two teams who were focused far too much on their offense and couldn't stop anybody. I'd rather get a great DT like Haynesworth or a DE that can get to the QB than an OT, but still.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by jeffp12

Yeah Randy Moss helps a ton, but I think the Offensive line is the most important aspect of New Englands Success. They can keep their QB upright. And if they want to try to run the ball they can do it well. Their D wasn't great this year, but it was solid. Point is, Brady goes down and they plug in a guy who hasn't started since high school and they go 11-5, and you're telling me QB is the best way to spend a pick. I'm taking a guy to keep any QB upright, whoever it might be, or a guy to put the other teams QB on his butt.

Funny, most sacks come from the outside. Yet you are talking about bumping out franchise LT to GUARD and justifying it by saying it helps keep our QB alive. I whole-heartedly disagree.

[Nightfyre]

Would you trade Brian Waters for Matt Ryan right now, jeff?

[Mecca]

I think we should just take an end to take one, we need another Tamba Hali out there, it'll be great.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Would you trade Brian Waters for Matt Ryan right now, jeff?

LOL, boy that's tough......I'd trade Brian Waters for a number of QB's.

QB>Guard by only about a million points.

[jeffp12]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Jesus. You have a messed up set of priorities, sir.
T1: OT, DE, QB, DT
T2: OLB, CB, WR, S
T3: G, C, ILB, HB, TE
T4: K, P, FB

K.

Did you see the colts without Jeff Saturday? Yeah, didn't do so hot.

Look at when we had Tony Richardson, or look at Lorenzo Neal, wherever he went the guy rushed for a 1000 yards.


And I'm not saying Shields is more important than Elway. When a QB is an amazing obvious Hall of Famer it changes things. But if I was building a team, this is the order of importance to picking guys. You put Elway in there without good Guards and he won't be able to step up in the pocket. You put generic quarterback number 3 in a well protected pocket and he'll pick apart the defense.

[Chiefs=Champions]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Those 2, Raji if they go 3-4 can be justified and Malcolm Jenkins can be justified as taking the best player on the board at a valuable position, that's it after those I don't think they can really justify another player.

Ah k.. So a nose tackle in 3-4 is valuable enough to take with a top 5 pick... On another note, do you think Dorsey can play end in a 3-4??

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

Ah k.. So a nose tackle in 3-4 is valuable enough to take with a top 5 pick... On another note, do you think Dorsey can play end in a 3-4??

I think he could, personally. Supposedly, he operates best in space.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by jeffp12

K.

Did you see the colts without Jeff Saturday? Yeah, didn't do so hot.

Look at when we had Tony Richardson, or look at Lorenzo Neal, wherever he went the guy rushed for a 1000 yards.


And I'm not saying Shields is more important than Elway. When a QB is an amazing obvious Hall of Famer it changes things. But if I was building a team, this is the order of importance to picking guys. You put Elway in there without good Guards and he won't be able to step up in the pocket. You put generic quarterback number 3 in a well protected pocket and he'll pick apart the defense.

Did you watch the Chiefs under Steve Bono? JESUS. Point and case.