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Old 01-29-2009, 11:42 PM  
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Van shopping part deux
Back to the old drawing board.

I had a 2008 Chrysler Town and Country Touring with 24k miles and talked them into including the Lifetime PowerTrain Warranty free (normally $1650 extra) for $17,995 lined up but, after my first test drive last week I found a problem with the shift from 1st to 2nd. They looked into it and determined it needed a new part. They then chose to replace the entire transmission with a brand new unit. Okay, fine. Today I went back to test drive it again and now after I finish the drive, there is a ticking coming from the engine when it is shut off. They tell me it is just the "heat shield" cooling off. This ticking is loud though. bordering on annoying. They agree to put it back up on the rack tomorrow morning to look it over and see if it could be anything else.

So, I am also looking at a 2005 Honda Odyssey EXL with 52k miles for $18,816 that has leather seats and a DVD system and a limited 3 yr 100k mile warranty. 48k miles left on that.

I have also looked at a 2007 Hyundai Entourage base model (no power anything) and a ugly tan interior fabric with 13k miles for $13,988. My major problem with this is that the cockpit is too small for my 6'2" frame and the fact it is base model.

I want to go with the T&C but am very concerned over the "ticking" issue. If the other vehicles I tested made the same noise I wouldn't be worried about it but they don't make that noise. I even drove another 2008 T&C and a 2008 Dodge Grand Caravan SXT (exact same as T&C) no ticking. Problem with the others I drove is that they can't come close to the price of the one mentioned above.

Any thoughts?
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Old 01-29-2009, 11:59 PM   #16
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Great, just looked up the carfax report on the Odyssey and it has 3 reported accidents on it. Too bad it doesn't tell you the severity of the accidents. It definitely didn't look damaged at all.
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Old 01-30-2009, 12:22 AM   #17
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I even drove another 2008 T&C and a 2008 Dodge Grand Caravan SXT (exact same as T&C) no ticking. Problem with the others I drove is that they can't come close to the price of the one mentioned above.

Any thoughts?
There might be a very good reason that they're willing to give you such a "good" deal on the other T&C.

Several of my good friends are in the car business, and the stories I hear...*shudder* Dirty, dirty business.

I know there are some decent dealers, sales folk, too, but lots of dirty ones. Lots.
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Old 01-30-2009, 12:36 AM   #18
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I am getting more frustrated as the night goes on. I only have my rental until Monday afternoon. ****
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Old 01-30-2009, 12:49 AM   #19
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Well, don't buy something in a panic, because that will just make matters worse.
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Old 01-30-2009, 01:09 AM   #20
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Well, don't buy something in a panic, because that will just make matters worse.
Have a vehicle to lend me? Pisses me off that we had a vehicle all lined up only to not be happy with the outcome.
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:31 AM   #21
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You're worried about a "ticking" when the engine isn't running?

It's annoying?

Pfft... Much ado about nothing.

If there were a "ticking" when the engine is running, you'd have cause for concern.
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:40 AM   #22
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You're worried about a "ticking" when the engine isn't running?

It's annoying?

Pfft... Much ado about nothing.

If there were a "ticking" when the engine is running, you'd have cause for concern.
Do you know what the hell it is then? I'm just frustrated. That tick everytime I pull into the garage will bug me.

wouldn't be so bad if I didn't just watch $6000 walk out the door because some guy wasn't paying attention.
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Do you know what the hell it is then? I'm just frustrated. That tick everytime I pull into the garage will bug me.

wouldn't be so bad if I didn't just watch $6000 walk out the door because some guy wasn't paying attention.
Sadly, I don't.

I'm just saying that whatever it is, it's not anything major.

Worry about the ticking sound if it happens when the engine is running.
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Sadly, I don't.

I'm just saying that whatever it is, it's not anything major.

Worry about the ticking sound when the engine is running.
Believe me, part of me wants to see it that way. The other part keeps wondering what is hiding under the hood that will bite me in the ass 1 year form now because I decided it was nothing.

Granted we didn't own the 2007 long enough to know if anything would have cropped up later on it but damn I loved that van.
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schedule a inspection with a shop that you trust and take in during a test drive. That might insure your decision on that vehicle.
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When metal cools it can make a ticking sound. My guess would be the exhaust system cooling down. It's common in every vehicle.
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When metal cools it can make a ticking sound. My guess would be the exhaust system cooling down. It's common in every vehicle.
Have had this on a few vehicles in the past (American made only). Never was a problem.
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When metal cools it can make a ticking sound. My guess would be the exhaust system cooling down. It's common in every vehicle.
I do understand that. Its just that this particular van is very loud for it to be that. The other vans I drove you really had to listen to hear any of the cooling "clicks". I could hear this one from 20 yards away clearly.
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