UFC 94 GSP vs BJ Penn

[mdstu]

Originally Posted by Simplex3

Keep putting up crappy fights like this one and see how long that lasts. You can always ask boxing how it has been working out for them.

I didn't think the fight was crappy. I think a lot of people thought that BJ would dominate GSP, after the last close fight and GSP getting KO'ed by Serra. It just turns out that BJ isn't quite as great as everyone thought he was. Of course he is the one that moved weight class, but he is the one that called GSP out. I think a lot of people took joy in watching him get his ass kicked.

Don't make this out to be a bad fight like the Silva fluke main event or the over hyped Kimbo fight.

[Simplex3]

Originally Posted by mdstu

I didn't think the fight was crappy. I think a lot of people thought that BJ would dominate GSP, after the last close fight and GSP getting KO'ed by Serra. It just turns out that BJ isn't quite as great as everyone thought he was. Of course he is the one that moved weight class, but he is the one that called GSP out. I think a lot of people took joy in watching him get his ass kicked.

Don't make this out to be a bad fight like the Silva fluke main event or the over hyped Kimbo fight.

BJ is a fighter. Of course he's going to be dumb enough to fight anyone, even guys with 10% more mass than he has.

Everyone talks about how GSP is such a hard-core trainer, always on his game, blah blah blah. If that's true then explain him getting beat down by Serra and losing to Penn the first time (yeah, I know GSP got the decision). GSP is a freak, but he's also hot and cold.

[BigVE]

Originally Posted by Simplex3

BJ is a fighter. Of course he's going to be dumb enough to fight anyone, even guys with 10% more mass than he has.

Everyone talks about how GSP is such a hard-core trainer, always on his game, blah blah blah. If that's true then explain him getting beat down by Serra and losing to Penn the first time (yeah, I know GSP got the decision). GSP is a freak, but he's also hot and cold.

Not any more. You have to go back a few years to find THAT GSP. He doesn't exist anymore. He has been nothing but RED hot since the Serra fight....THAT is when he started to take things more serious and it has shown in EVERY one of his performances since then. He has utterly dominated everyone since the Serra fight. Period. There's your explanation. Catch up with current events before you spout this crap.

[Simplex3]

Originally Posted by BigVE

Not any more. You have to go back a few years to find THAT GSP. He doesn't exist anymore. He has been nothing but RED hot since the Serra fight....THAT is when he started to take things more serious and it has shown in EVERY one of his performances since then. He has utterly dominated everyone since the Serra fight. Period. There's your explanation. Catch up with current events before you spout this crap.

That was a year and what, two fights ago? Color me impressed.

[Simplex3]

Originally Posted by Simplex3

That was a year and what, two fights ago? Color me impressed.

Here it is. It's been a lot longer than I thought. How time does fly when you're getting old.

04-07-2007 : Lost to Serra in the first. Was wholly unprepared.
08-25-2007 : Beat Koscheck by a decision. Not a great win IMO, but I didn't see the fight.
12-19-2007 : Kicked the crap out of an old Matt Hughes.
04-19-2008 : Finally beat Serra, who isn't very good.
08-09-2008 : Beat John Fitch, but it went the full 5 rounds.
01-31-2009 : Beat up a lightweight fighter.

The guy has been fighting every four months. That's pretty impressive. More guys should be doing this. Just stay in shape.

[burt]

Originally Posted by Simplex3

Here it is. It's been a lot longer than I thought. How time does fly when you're getting old.

04-07-2007 : Lost to Serra in the first. Was wholly unprepared.
08-25-2007 : Beat Koscheck by a decision. Not a great win IMO, but I didn't see the fight.
12-19-2007 : Kicked the crap out of an old Matt Hughes.
04-19-2008 : Finally beat Serra, who isn't very good.
08-09-2008 : Beat John Fitch, but it went the full 5 rounds.
01-31-2009 : Beat up a lightweight fighter.

The guy has been fighting every four months. That's pretty impressive. More guys should be doing this. Just stay in shape.

Matt Hughes isn't old. The rest is true.

GSP is a very tough opponent. One of the previous posts was touting how tough Penn is. I mostly agree, but sometimes he tends to coast, hoping to catch an opponent getting sloppy and throwing a great submission hold. That kind of shit won't work when fighting someone of GSP's caliber.

[BigVE]

Originally Posted by Simplex3

That was a year and what, two fights ago? Color me impressed.

That's ok, if your not impressed by what he has done then you have a lot to learn about MMA and the caliber of fighters that are out there. Serra got lucky and everyone including Serra has said so. Matt Hughes was one of the best there has ever been and got absolutely pummeled by GSP at his own game. Serra got absolutely pummeled by GSP. GSP's last fight was against a guy who was supposed to be his "toughest opponent yet" and he dominated him. THEN you take into account Penn is considered top 5 in the world pound for pound (some ranked him higher than GSP) and he was also absolutely destroyed and humiliated by GSP. That's what has been impressive, HOW he has won. He hardly got hit last night at all and Penn is considered one of THE best boxers too, let alone the fact that he is world class at Jiu-jitsu and had NOTHING for GSP. Nothing. If your not impressed your just have hater-vision on and cant see the picture that is plainly in front of your face.