Football Did Officiating Sway the Outcome of Super Bowl XLIII? - Page 3

**Buck** · 02-02-2009, 12:17 PM

Yes or No?

Poll to follow.

P.S. No Gaz option.

BigCatDaddy · 02-02-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

He grabbed onto the defender and fell backwards. If that's not holding, then I don't know what is. I think he could easily see the guy on the ground, bear-hugging the defender.

Wow, if you don't think it was holding you need to take the homer glasses off dude

EyePod · 02-02-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding

Perhaps.

To me it looked like Woodley pinned the ball to the palm of Warner's hand right before it popped out. Not sure if thats defined as possession or not.

Either way, on this topic, what are the chances that Arizona completes a 60 yard Hail Mary anyways...

The biggest one was the Roughing the Passer call.

That call was BS. And the chances for Arizona completing the Hail Mary are better than any other team in the NFL.

**SAUTO** · 02-02-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding

There is no 10 second run off if the clock is already stopped.

oh yeah there was a change of possesion.

**DaFace** · 02-02-2009, 12:40 PM

Oh, and I wish they would have reviewed the fumble/interception, but I think the call was right after reviewing it myself.

melbar · 02-02-2009, 12:40 PM

How bout the Steeler celebration in the endzone using the Ball as a prop? isnt that a 15 yrd penalty?

BigCatDaddy · 02-02-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

in the last 2 min. i'm pretty sure thats the call. you cant challenge, offensive penalty stops the game 10 second run off, i could be wrong though

I know you can't challenge in the last 2 minutes, but I would play dumb or something. I'm sure Gun or Herm could pull that off pretty well. That might be enough time to draw attention to it and get them to review the play. If the Steelers recoverd the ball then tech you aren't on offense when you do it, but if it's over turned they you are. That's a tough one.

EyePod · 02-02-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Wow, if you don't think it was holding you need to take the homer glasses off dude

I was saying that it was holding!

Originally Posted by EyePod

He grabbed onto the defender and fell backwards. If that's not holding, then I don't know what is. I think he could easily see the guy on the ground, bear-hugging the defender.

EyePod · 02-02-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

How bout the Steeler celebration in the endzone using the Ball as a prop? isnt that a 15 yrd penalty?

Yes. It totally should have been. Again, another missed call.

BigCatDaddy · 02-02-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

I was saying that it was holding!

Originally Posted by EyePod

He grabbed onto the defender and fell backwards. If that's not holding, then I don't know what is. I think he could easily see the guy on the ground, bear-hugging the defender.

I know. It was directed at the homer. Sorry about the confusion.

eazyb81 · 02-02-2009, 12:44 PM

Ignoring the bad fumble call on Warner on the last play of the game for the time being.....

1. According to the rule book, the celebration Santonio Holmes did after scoring the last TD was excessive celebration, and should have been a 15 yard penalty on the kick off. I realize people think it is a dumb rule, but you can't just let it slide when he CLEARLY used the ball as a prop in his celebration. It's been called all year - don't ignore it now.

2. On the Warner incomplete/fumble, a Pittsburgh player (I think Lamarr Woodley) took his helmet off to celebrate before the play had been whistled dead. Again, that is a 15 year penalty according to the rule book, and as Chiefs fans we have seen it called at the end of a game (Dwayne Rudd).

That is 30 extra yards Arizona should have had on the last drive of the game according to the NFL rule book.

With those 30 yards, they would have had a much better shot of getting a last second TD to win the game.

melbar · 02-02-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

Yes. It totally should have been. Again, another missed call.

And thats 15 yards for the last drive with 1min. left in the game.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-02-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

He grabbed onto the defender and fell backwards. If that's not holding, then I don't know what is. I think he could easily see the guy on the ground, bear-hugging the defender.

You're missing the point. It WAS holding, but shy of the Umpire having X-Ray vision, he couldn't have seen it - only assumed it.

From the umpire vantage point, there is no physical way he could have seen the lineman's hands. From his angle, it looked like the DLman just bowled over the OLman.

He didn't have him in a bear hug, he had a hold of the front of his jersey and pulled him down towards him - AWAY from the Umpire.

I'm not even saying it was a bad call, just that the Umpire wasn't in position to make it without assuming - especially when the Referee has the perfect vantage point for the call and DOESN'T throw a flag.

EyePod · 02-02-2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I know. It was directed at the homer. Sorry about the confusion.

hahaha, I thought you were yelling at me. My bad!

Thig Lyfe · 02-02-2009, 12:46 PM

Officiating affects every game. The Cardinals got ****ed a few times early on, but they also did a lot of it to themselves, and they were able to overcome it to come back at the end. Everything evened out, and it ultimately came down to the Steelers offense making the plays it needed to make in the clutch.

Super Bowl XL, it was not.

EyePod · 02-02-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Ignoring the bad fumble call on Warner on the last play of the game for the time being.....

1. According to the rule book, the celebration Santonio Holmes did after scoring the last TD was excessive celebration, and should have been a 15 yard penalty on the kick off. I realize people think it is a dumb rule, but you can't just let it slide when he CLEARLY used the ball as a prop in his celebration. It's been called all year - don't ignore it now.

2. On the Warner incomplete/fumble, a Pittsburgh player (I think Lamarr Woodley) took his helmet off to celebrate before the play had been whistled dead. Again, that is a 15 year penalty according to the rule book, and as Chiefs fans we have seen it called at the end of a game (Dwayne Rudd).

That is 30 extra yards Arizona should have had on the last drive of the game according to the NFL rule book.

With those 30 yards, they would have had a much better shot of getting a last second TD to win the game.

I thought the Woodley penalty was called, but it was adden on after the play (where Pittsburgh got the ball). Now if they didn't... THAT would have been something!

per NFL:

PENALTY on PIT-56-L.Woodley, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, 14 yards, enforced at PIT 43.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playby...08&week=POST21

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eazyb81 The Illuminati Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled Casino cash: $9984900	Ignoring the bad fumble call on Warner on the last play of the game for the time being..... 1. According to the rule book, the celebration Santonio Holmes did after scoring the last TD was excessive celebration, and should have been a 15 yard penalty on the kick off. I realize people think it is a dumb rule, but you can't just let it slide when he CLEARLY used the ball as a prop in his celebration. It's been called all year - don't ignore it now. 2. On the Warner incomplete/fumble, a Pittsburgh player (I think Lamarr Woodley) took his helmet off to celebrate before the play had been whistled dead. Again, that is a 15 year penalty according to the rule book, and as Chiefs fans we have seen it called at the end of a game (Dwayne Rudd). That is 30 extra yards Arizona should have had on the last drive of the game according to the NFL rule book. With those 30 yards, they would have had a much better shot of getting a last second TD to win the game.
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