Football Did Officiating Sway the Outcome of Super Bowl XLIII? - Page 4

**Buck** · 02-02-2009, 12:17 PM

Yes or No?

Poll to follow.

P.S. No Gaz option.

melbar · 02-02-2009, 12:48 PM

They're reviewing the call right now and the head of officiating is making official statements on additional reviews right now...shouldnt be an issue the day after.

**Bugeater** · 02-02-2009, 12:48 PM

I thought it was equally crappy on both sides. Not to mention AZ played like crap for most of the game and were lucky to be in it at the end anyway.

FloridaMan88 · 02-02-2009, 12:49 PM

I still can't believe they didn't at least take the time to review that final play... it looked like Warner's arm was going forward when the ball was released from his hand.

If the call on that play is overturned and ruled an incomplete pass, you factor in the 15 yard personal foul call against Pittsburgh for the player taking his helmet off, Arizona would have had the ball close to the 35 yard line.

Would anyone argue that Arizona, with Fitzgerald's jumping ability wouldn't have at least had a fighting chance for a throw into the end zone from the 35 yard line?

Unfortunately we'll never know.

EyePod · 02-02-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

Officiating affects every game. The Cardinals got ****ed a few times early on, but they also did a lot of it to themselves, and they were able to overcome it to come back at the end. Everything evened out, and it ultimately came down to the Steelers offense making the plays it needed to make in the clutch.

Super Bowl XL, it was not.

Yes. The reviews did right the big wrongs. And most of the penalties on the Cardinals were legitimate. And you don't have those, you don't have to pass as much, and you kill more clock time, giving the Steelers less time at the end for a comeback.

Thig Lyfe · 02-02-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Ignoring the bad fumble call on Warner on the last play of the game for the time being.....

1. According to the rule book, the celebration Santonio Holmes did after scoring the last TD was excessive celebration, and should have been a 15 yard penalty on the kick off. I realize people think it is a dumb rule, but you can't just let it slide when he CLEARLY used the ball as a prop in his celebration. It's been called all year - don't ignore it now.

2. On the Warner incomplete/fumble, a Pittsburgh player (I think Lamarr Woodley) took his helmet off to celebrate before the play had been whistled dead. Again, that is a 15 year penalty according to the rule book, and as Chiefs fans we have seen it called at the end of a game (Dwayne Rudd).

That is 30 extra yards Arizona should have had on the last drive of the game according to the NFL rule book.

With those 30 yards, they would have had a much better shot of getting a last second TD to win the game.

I think they called the second penalty, but because possession had changed they applied it to the Steelers offense. I think.

dtebbe · 02-02-2009, 12:49 PM

There was a clear block in the back on that TD right before half-time. The Cardinal player was lining up to make the tackle and a blocker grabbed him with 2 hands on the back and threw him down. Apparently I'm the only one who saw it. Should have been the end of the half.

It's at about :12 in this video:

DT

**SAUTO** · 02-02-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

Officiating affects every game. The Cardinals got ****ed a few times early on, but they also did a lot of it to themselves, and they were able to overcome it to come back at the end. Everything evened out, and it ultimately came down to the Steelers offense making the plays it needed to make in the clutch.

Super Bowl XL, it was not.

Yep it was Super Bowl XLIII

eazyb81 · 02-02-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

I still can't believe they didn't at least take the time to review that final play... it looked like Warner's arm was going forward when the ball was released from his hand.

If the call on that play is overturned and ruled an incomplete pass, you factor in the 15 yard personal foul call against Pittsburgh for the player taking his helmet off, Arizona would have had the ball close to the 35 yard line.

Would anyone argue that Arizona, with Fitzgerald's jumping ability wouldn't have at least had a fighting chance for a throw into the end zone from the 35 yard line?

Unfortunately we'll never know.

Exactly, and throw in the extra 15 yards they should have had from the Santonio Holmes celebration.

Who knows if they would have scored, but they should have at least had the opportunity.

EyePod · 02-02-2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dtebbe

There was a clear block in the back on that TD right before half-time. The Cardinal player was lining up to make the tackle and a blocked grabbed him with 2 hands on the back and threw him down. Apparently I'm the only one who saw it. Should have been the end of the half.

DT

No, I watched this several times and even a Cardinals fan agreed with me that he blocked on the side. His one hand hit right near the side/back and his left hand was on the shoulder. I think it was mostly a block on the side, not in the back. The block was on Timmy Hightower btw.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 02-02-2009, 12:51 PM

I'm surprised the voting is going the way it is.

Molitoth · 02-02-2009, 12:54 PM

Officiating effects every game. The Cards got screwed a few times, but if they really wanted to win the game, they could have. The defence on Pits last drive was pathetic.

EyePod · 02-02-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Officiating effects every game. The Cards got screwed a few times, but if they really wanted to win the game, they could have. The defense on Pits last drive was pathetic.

The funniest thing was that I was talking with my Cardinals fan friend, and he thought that Santonio Holmes wasn't doing a great job. He said that a lot of Steelers fans were disappointing with his play. I said he/they are complete morons, and Holmes is great, but he's just in a very stingy offense. I guess I got that right.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-02-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I'm surprised the voting is going the way it is.

I'm not.

This place is a giant, gaping sandy vag when it comes to the Steelers and officiating.

DJay23 · 02-02-2009, 01:12 PM

Regarding something I posted on a thread last week, the Steelers fans are whining again. One of the most exciting Super Bowl endings ever and they want to talk about the holding in the end zone.

YOU WON!

**Buck** · 02-02-2009, 05:46 PM

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FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $-757094	I still can't believe they didn't at least take the time to review that final play... it looked like Warner's arm was going forward when the ball was released from his hand. If the call on that play is overturned and ruled an incomplete pass, you factor in the 15 yard personal foul call against Pittsburgh for the player taking his helmet off, Arizona would have had the ball close to the 35 yard line. Would anyone argue that Arizona, with Fitzgerald's jumping ability wouldn't have at least had a fighting chance for a throw into the end zone from the 35 yard line? Unfortunately we'll never know.
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dtebbe 3M TA3 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: SoFlo Casino cash: $9993039	There was a clear block in the back on that TD right before half-time. The Cardinal player was lining up to make the tackle and a blocker grabbed him with 2 hands on the back and threw him down. Apparently I'm the only one who saw it. Should have been the end of the half. It's at about :12 in this video: DT
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