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[Mi_chief_fan]

"Excited, he's (Haley) got some good qualities for a coach."

"Watched the Cardinals alot, impressed, looking forward to him bringing his scheme to KC."

"It's a fun offense: you can run the spread,I-formation, play action and go deep."

THinks KC's receivers will thrive with Haley, likes the talent at WR.

"It's great to have an offensive minded coach like Brad CHildress in MN."

Would like to see Gailey stay

"THey might clash in some ways, but i'd like to see him run the offense this year."

"I feel like right now i'm the QB for the CHiefs until i'm told otherwise."

"I'd hate to see TG go, having him here wil help us win."

"I'll try to caontact Tony after the Pro-Bowl. In this system, the TE will get the ball."

On LJ:
"As a player you always want to be happy, obviously he doesn't want to be here, that's his perogative. I would hope none of the teammates would hold a grudge for what he said if he does come back. He's really good when he wants to be."

[chiefscafan]

Actually you want to get technical he had similar numbers to matt Ryan

[ChiefsCountry]

Thigpen stats were very similar to Steve Peuller of the Cowboys in 1988.

[-King-]

Lol, I wouldn't put him anywhere near Matt Ryan. But if he could do that with Herm and Penis Curl as his coaches, theres no reason he cant get to Matt Ryans level with real NFL coaching. Hell, he can be our own Steve Young. Great qb who can run.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

Ok this is what I've been thinking why not bring in a vet to mentor him such as a kurt warner type. Give thigpen some coaching and watchout. I still saw him make some throws I haven't seen in years. I'm not giving up on him just yet I just think he needs sometime. He actually is pioli's type of Qb.

Me too. I haven't seen a quarterback miss wide open receivers like Thigpen did on occasions too numerous to count since junior high school. Or maybe NAIA football, but I digress. The guy throws beachballs. Or giant wiffleballs. Or oblong marshmallows. Something of that nature.

Sure he deserves a chance. That's why Herm thought he should be on the roster...wait. Scratch that. No chance for him. But seriously, he is going to get the chance. It would be stupid not to give him the chance. However, the only reason he was on the field last season is because the offensive line got Brodie killed and Huard maimed. He was the only option the Chiefs had, and the first three games with Thigpen out there might have been the worst I have ever seen from a quarterback on the NFL level outside of Rex Grossman, and maybe not even him. Then things started shaping up a bit, but not much. And all the credit needs to go to Gailey for that. At least he was able to make the switch in the offense that allowed Thigpen to actually start putting up some numbers. However, his qb'ing was still painful as hell to watch. At least by anyone not named Tony Gonzalez. Then he began to regress again in the final weeks of the season, overthrowing receivers by huge margins, making bad reads, etc. Meltdown.

Yeah, he gets a shot. But they better bring in about five other dudes, including Sanchez/Stafford from the draft to compete. Personally, I felt that it was the Thigpen experiment that truly doomed Carl and Herm. They made no move to get anyone of note to come in and fill the void left by the bloodied, mangled bodies of Croyle and Huard. No one. They thought it best just to let the poor bastard Thigpen die on a vine out there on the field. Many were the comments that the Chiefs were doing so in order to intentionally tank the season for the draft pick. Regardless, it was painful to watch. Very painful.

[The_Doctor10]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

All Thigpen has done is improve and make plays...the guy had none of the luxuries Croyle has. He moves around and makes plays happen, distributes the ball. Doing all of this with an offense that completely changed and no pre season to prepare.

Sometimes fans on here choose strange players to shit on. I hope he keeps getting better and gets a chance to good things for this team.

Word.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Thigpen, you'll get a shot at being the starter, but thinking you are annointed the starter by default is absurd. EARN IT.

Little late on this, but as a QB for the Chiefs or any team, that is the way he should be thinking. Even if he's a 3rd stringer act like you want to be the guy. Dont act like you wanna hold the clipboard and make some money.


I like his attitude. I dont know if he's going to be the QB for the 09 season, but whoever it is, i want them to have the same kind of attitude.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Crush

Thigpen better learn how to play under center to give this argument any legitimacy.

The problem is that I don't believe he will be effective as a traditional QB.

I think he can play under center, but or Oline was so horrible that no QB could have played under center. WE lost 2 QB's becuase our Oline cant block worth a ****. This all happened in 6 games. If we would have stayed in a I formation we would have went through about 2-4 more quarterbacks.


Like i said in my previous post. I dont care who they draft. Draft who they think is best for this team right now. If its a QB, then so be it, If its another position then thats fine as well.

[bishop_74]

Chiefs + Thigpen > (Broncos + Chargers) - Raiders

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Trent Green was cut, so was Warner, Brunell, Hasslebeck, and the list goes on.

Just because one person doesn't work out one place doesn't mean he can't succeed at another.

Brunnel and Hasselbeck were late round picks by the Green Bay Packers that were traded, not cut, for valuable draft picks.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

All Thigpen has done is improve and make plays...the guy had none of the luxuries Croyle has. He moves around and makes plays happen, distributes the ball. Doing all of this with an offense that completely changed and no pre season to prepare.

Sometimes fans on here choose strange players to shit on. I hope he keeps getting better and gets a chance to good things for this team.

The problem is Zach that he can't play under center. Do you remember the Raider game? The Atlanta game?

They put him in the spread so that he could better read the defenses. He did a pretty good job of reading the defense in the first half of most of his starts but after halftime, the defenses adjusted and shut him down. The Chiefs lost like 6 or 7 games when they were leading at halftime because of this.

They also had trouble scoring in goal line situations (again, with Thigpen behind center). Part of this was because the right side of the offensive line (the power side) was complete and utter trash but the other part of the equation is that the defenses knew what was coming because Thigpen couldn't read them well enough to throw the ball on the goal line (nor does he possess the accuracy).

I don't think the Chiefs should dump him but it's going to take him years of practice to learn how to read and react under center and quite frankly, it may never happen.

That's not a guy I want starting for my football team.

[KC kid]

All Thigpen supporters need to go back to watching Hoosiers, Rudy, and Rocky to satisfy their dream of a no talent underachiever making it to the top. It won't happen with Thigpen. I will place a sig bet with anyone out there that Thigpen will not be a starting QB going into the season under Haley and Pioli.

[Mecca]

Ah the Thigpen lovers are back in full force...I knew it was coming sooner or later.

If you think your franchise QB should be a short guy from a tiny school from a spread offense that can't play from under center more power to you, as a strategy it's a loser but hey.

There are guys drafted in the top 10, guys with a million times Thigpens talent that couldn't learn to do what people act like he can learn to do like it's a piece of cake. When you've been doing something for 6+ years it's hard to change it's like trying to change a guys throwing motion.

[KC kid]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Ah the Thigpen lovers are back in full force...I knew it was coming sooner or later.

If you think your franchise QB should be a short guy from a tiny school from a spread offense that can't play from under center more power to you, as a strategy it's a loser but hey.

There are guys drafted in the top 10, guys with a million times Thigpens talent that couldn't learn to do what people act like he can learn to do like it's a piece of cake. When you've been doing something for 6+ years it's hard to change it's like trying to change a guys throwing motion.

I agree with you more often than not. We bagged Plummer like crazy around here, but Thigpen and Plummer have similar talents only Thigpen is NOT AS GOOD!!!

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by KC kid

I agree with you more often than not. We bagged Plummer like crazy around here, but Thigpen and Plummer have similar talents only Thigpen is NOT AS GOOD!!!

Yea Thigpen isn't even Plummer, people get so enamored with running QB's, also people got so caught up in thinking Croyle was it that as soon as Thigpen did anything they were ready to just hand that to him just like they were with Croyle.

These things need to be logically looked at, not just oh shit he's on the Chiefs and he played some he's the future!

[KC kid]

I shudder to think if the Chiefs kept herm and drafted Pat White. People would be so excited!!!