Chiefs Who has more td then - Page 3

big nasty kcnut · 02-09-2009, 05:53 AM

Matt ryan,joe flacco and ben rothlitberger. Why it's our own tyler thigpen and all 3 qbs i'd mention were in the playoff. So don't be so quick to dismiss him.
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CrazyHorse · 02-09-2009, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

Why would he be apprehensive about reading?

Ha ha. What a dumbass I am.

Comprehension,

He does seem a little apprehensive though

beach tribe · 02-09-2009, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Elway=Ben.

Got it.

You=reerun

got it.

I did not say that.

beach tribe · 02-09-2009, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Never said he wasn't legit, or that he was shitty. I said he wasn't great, and he's not.

I will argue however that you cant just throw any semblance of players together and have the #1 defense in the NFL. Are you saying Ben would have been in and won the SB with a middle of the road defense this season?

And you can't have an awesome D, and just throw any QB back there, and expect to win the SB.

CrazyHorse · 02-09-2009, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

You=reerun

got it.

I did not say that.

I'll take that as a compliment. I've met some good people that are "reeruns".

None of them compare Elway to Ben either. So there ya go.

CrazyHorse · 02-09-2009, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

And you can't have an awesome D, and just throw any QB back there, and expect to win the SB.

I agree.

Agent V · 02-09-2009, 07:16 AM

All Thigpen has proven is based on his part in the revitalization/gimmickization of the offense, he deserves CONTENTION for a QB spot. That's it. Do I think he deserves a starting spot in a pro-style offense? No.

I like the kid, I really do. I was a huge supporter when he was playing until I hit a realization: he's sloppy, he's only proven he can play in the spread, he's not clutch (I cite the Denver game, but I guess it's just something he hasn't proven), and his accuracy, especially throwing the long ball, is shit.

At his age, what CAN he do to improve accuracy?

tmax63 · 02-09-2009, 07:44 AM

I've talked to football players who don't think the spread is just a gimmick. Getting as much distance between players as you can and exploiting 1-on-1 match-ups isn't as crazy as it sounds. Just like the no-huddle doesn't allow substitutions to exploit match-ups. Will it take over the NFL, not at all, but folks I have talked to seem to think it will find a home and a usefulness for teams that don't do the "wildcat" or other gimmicks to gain an advantage.

EyePod · 02-09-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

This argument proves why stats are overrated...

If you watched the Superbowl and have ANY question as to whether Roethlisberger is that teams franchise player, I can't help you.

James Harrison?

EyePod · 02-09-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerberos

The Steelers only ask Big Ben to do enough to win games. No more. No Less.

Is he ever going to break any of Marino's or Favre's records? Probably not. But how may SB did Marino win? How many did Favre Win?

Saying that Rothlisberger isn't that good because of stats is kind of dumbassery and blind homerism if you are comparing Thigpen to him. Could Thigpen have won more games if we had a Defense like Blitzbergs? I am certain of it. But to think he can clutch win games is an uncertain cause he hasn't show he can do it. Ben has.

Keep doubting Big Ben as he will no doubt take the "Berg" to yet another SB in the next 5 years if I was a betting man.

BTW this is IMO.

It's impossible to compare the two with just stats. What I think we should do is to say that Flacco and Ryan had better stats, but if you take into consideration Thigpen's terrible, terrible defense, Thigpen had a pretty good year and is worth considering for next.

soopamanluva · 02-09-2009, 08:03 AM

thigpen cannot, i repeat, cannot. throw deep. he does not have the arm strength nor can he play under center. it makes no sense that we are lined up in shotgun on goalline situations. that is what sets him below everyone else. he needs to be out all offseason working on those thing in order to be successful. because without tony, those numbers go out the window.
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Mecca · 02-09-2009, 08:06 AM

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James Harrison?

And as soon as Harrison expects to be paid he'll be cycled out just like Porter was just like Chad Brown was and on down the line of all the LB's they walked away from and replaced in the snap of a finger like it was no issue.

**BigRichard** · 02-09-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

I'll take that as a compliment. I've met some good people that are "reeruns".

None of them compare Elway to Ben either. So there ya go.

Ouch!!! It will take him a while to come back from that one.

blueballs · 02-09-2009, 10:54 AM

Thigpen needs Toothless's size
but that guy is on the sideline

Micjones · 02-09-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

This argument proves why stats are overrated...

If you watched the Superbowl and have ANY question as to whether Roethlisberger is that teams franchise player, I can't help you.

Roethlisberger played like shit in the Superbowl save the last drive of the game.
That performance doesn't do your argument that he's a franchise player justice.

**The Franchise** · 02-09-2009, 10:59 AM

Thigpen hasn't proven that he can play in a regular offense.

I would hope he would have a lot of TDs in the spread.

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Agent V Bring me Geno. Join Date: Sep 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	All Thigpen has proven is based on his part in the revitalization/gimmickization of the offense, he deserves CONTENTION for a QB spot. That's it. Do I think he deserves a starting spot in a pro-style offense? No. I like the kid, I really do. I was a huge supporter when he was playing until I hit a realization: he's sloppy, he's only proven he can play in the spread, he's not clutch (I cite the Denver game, but I guess it's just something he hasn't proven), and his accuracy, especially throwing the long ball, is shit. At his age, what CAN he do to improve accuracy?
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tmax63 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Colorado Casino cash: $453600	I've talked to football players who don't think the spread is just a gimmick. Getting as much distance between players as you can and exploiting 1-on-1 match-ups isn't as crazy as it sounds. Just like the no-huddle doesn't allow substitutions to exploit match-ups. Will it take over the NFL, not at all, but folks I have talked to seem to think it will find a home and a usefulness for teams that don't do the "wildcat" or other gimmicks to gain an advantage. __________________ An armed member of society is a citizen, an unarmed member is a subject.
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soopamanluva Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $10005147	thigpen cannot, i repeat, cannot. throw deep. he does not have the arm strength nor can he play under center. it makes no sense that we are lined up in shotgun on goalline situations. that is what sets him below everyone else. he needs to be out all offseason working on those thing in order to be successful. because without tony, those numbers go out the window. Posted via Mobile Device
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02-09-2009, 10:54 AM	#43
blueballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	Thigpen needs Toothless's size but that guy is on the sideline
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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2055047	Thigpen hasn't proven that he can play in a regular offense. I would hope he would have a lot of TDs in the spread.
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