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Old 02-09-2009, 07:20 PM   #1
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OK, you got me thinking about this and if maybe I was being too hard on some of these QBs. So, I listed each starting QB from last year and where I would rank them roughly. Where do you disagree that Delhomme, Collins or Hasselbeck should move up this list? And where would Harrington fit in here. By definition, average would be anything in the middle group, numbers 10 or 11 through about 21.


1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Donovan McNabb
5. Ben Roethlisberger
6. Kurt Warner
7. Tony Romo
8. Phillip Rivers
9. Jay Cutler
10. Eli Manning
11. Carson Palmer
12. Matt Ryan
13. Aaron Rogers
14. Matt Hasselbeck
15. David Garrard
16. Marc Bulger
17. Kerry Collins
18. Chad Pennington
19. Jeff Garcia
20. Matt Shaub
21. Brett Favre
22. Trent Edwards
23. Joe Flacco
24. Jake Delhomme
25. Jason Campbell
26. Kyle Orton
27. Tyler Thigpen
28. Shaun Hill
29. Brady Quinn
30. JaMarcus Russell
31. Tarvaris Jackson
32. Dan Orlovsky
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Every QB on that list is well above average.

OK, please show me where they should be listed then in this group. As far as I have them ranked, they are the very definition of average.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:22 PM   #2
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OK, please show me where they should be listed then in this group. As far as I have them ranked, they are the very definition of average.
The problem with your list is you just listed the starting QB's when you factor in most teams carry 3 then your list is schewed. All the starters are above average in the league, the top backups are the average QB's, and the 3rd stringers are the scrubs.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:25 PM   #3
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The problem with your list is you just listed the starting QB's when you factor in most teams carry 3 then your list is schewed. All the starters are above average in the league, the top backups are the average QB's, and the 3rd stringers are the scrubs.
I have literally NEVER seen anyone argue that Joey Harrington is an average NFL QB until this thread. I honestly can't believe it.

OK, every starting QB in the NFL is above average then.

Then, of course let's draft a QB! He's guaranteed to be at least average!
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:55 PM   #4
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I have literally NEVER seen anyone argue that Joey Harrington is an average NFL QB until this thread. I honestly can't believe it.

OK, every starting QB in the NFL is above average then.

Then, of course let's draft a QB! He's guaranteed to be at least average!
Who said anything about drafting an "average" QB?

Furthermore, if Joey Harrington wasn't at least "average", he wouldn't have over 15,000 yards passing in the NFL and he would not be a member of the New Orleans Saints.

And he wouldn't be backing up Drew Brees and the number one offense in the league. Somehow, some way, I think Sean Payton has this offense thing figured out and if Harrington couldn't hack it, he'd be gone.
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:49 PM   #5
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I have literally NEVER seen anyone argue that Joey Harrington is an average NFL QB until this thread. I honestly can't believe it.

OK, every starting QB in the NFL is above average then.

Then, of course let's draft a QB! He's guaranteed to be at least average!
Nobody said that we wanted an average QB, but that wasn't your argument. You argued that Harrington wasn't an average QB. List every QB in the NFL, and I will rank him along with
Jake Delhomme
Jeff Garcia
Marc Bulger
Matt Hasselbeck
David Garrard
Kerry Collins
Steve DeBerg
Dave Kreig
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:51 PM   #6
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Nobody said that we wanted an average QB, but that wasn't your argument. You argued that Harrington wasn't an average QB. List every QB in the NFL, and I will rank him along with
Jake Delhomme
Jeff Garcia
Marc Bulger
Matt Hasselbeck
David Garrard
Kerry Collins
Steve DeBerg
Dave Kreig


No shit? You would put Joey Harrington on the same level as those guys? Wow.
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