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Old 02-11-2009, 11:10 AM   #1
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That's such flawed logic, but oh well.
I hope your player evaluation is better than your reading comprehension.

I never argued that they would NOT draft a QB because of these previous situations.

I am merely arguing that those organizations, whom these guys were a part didn't feel the need to draft a QB in the first round of their first draft.... or much at all really.

So, to assume that Pioli and Haley would just because the Chiefs need a QB, is illogical.

They, unlike idiot fans, see the big picture. Merely because they need a position, doesn't mean the guy that is sitting there is worth the pick.

Oh, and some idiots might call it 'safe' not to reach for a QB. But, MOST would call that smart.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:12 AM   #2
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I hope your player evaluation is better than your reading comprehension.

I never argued that they would NOT draft a QB because of these previous situations.

I am merely arguing that those organizations, whom these guys were a part didn't feel the need to draft a QB in the first round of their first draft.... or much at all really.

So, to assume that Pioli and Haley would just because the Chiefs need a QB, is illogical.

They, unlike idiot fans, see the big picture. Merely because they need a position, doesn't mean the guy that is sitting there is worth the pick.

Oh, and some idiots might call it 'safe' not to reach for a QB. But, MOST would call that smart.
There's a reason they didn't feel the need. And that's because there never was a need, in NE.

But keep blindly using the point of Brady in the 6th and Cassel in the 7th.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:13 AM   #3
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There's a reason they didn't feel the need. And that's because there never was a need, in NE.

But keep blindly using the point of Brady in the 6th and Cassel in the 7th.
Obviously not drafting a QB in the 1st round is a sticking point even though they had a 100 million dollar #1 pick on their roster you know.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:14 AM   #4
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Obviously not drafting a QB in the 1st round is a sticking point even though they had a 100 million dollar #1 pick on their roster you know.
It's more convenient when you leave that little bit out.

Brady in the 6th111 Cassel in the 7th111
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:20 AM   #5
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It's more convenient when you leave that little bit out.

Brady in the 6th111 Cassel in the 7th111
Of course, that is why you have to look at their entire careers. And, we all agree that these are 'disciples' of Bill Parcells. And, we saw just last year how he drafted an OT first overall.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:22 AM   #6
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Of course, that is why you have to look at their entire careers. And, we all agree that these are 'disciples' of Bill Parcells. And, we saw just last year how he drafted an OT first overall.
And one of those disciples took a QB at #3 overall.

We'll see if Miami doesn't regret that selection for a long time. It will be something to follow.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:22 AM   #7
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Of course, that is why you have to look at their entire careers. And, we all agree that these are 'disciples' of Bill Parcells. And, we saw just last year how he drafted an OT first overall.
How can you include Pioli's entire career, when he wasn't making the decisions in New York or Cleveland?

And Haley?

Same thing. He has input, but never had the authority to make the decisions you're speaking about.

It's a terrible argument.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:23 AM   #8
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Of course, that is why you have to look at their entire careers. And, we all agree that these are 'disciples' of Bill Parcells. And, we saw just last year how he drafted an OT first overall.
Do you think Parcells would rethink that decision at this point?
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:15 AM   #9
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Can't change Mecca's mind about Sanchez...that's fine. I just happen to disagree. I want Curry...Mecca and Brock want Sanchez. I won't be disappointed with Sanchez...but I don't think he's worhty of a top 3 pick. Curry, IMO, is .
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Can't change Mecca's mind about Sanchez...that's fine. I just happen to disagree. I want Curry...Mecca and Brock want Sanchez. I won't be disappointed with Sanchez...but I don't think he's worhty of a top 3 pick. Curry, IMO, is .
When was the last time anyone took a linebacker in the top 3? Why do you think that is?
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:24 AM   #11
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When was the last time anyone took a linebacker in the top 3? Why do you think that is?
Because franchises get sucked into positional value thought processes.

They reach for a higher valued position when a better prospect is sitting in front of them.

Typically, when a player is selected above their 'positional' value, they are RARELY a bust.

Yet, we see QB busts all the time. Hmmm.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:25 AM   #12
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Because franchises get sucked into positional value thought processes.

They reach for a higher valued position when a better prospect is sitting in front of them.

Typically, when a player is selected above their 'positional' value, they are RARELY a bust.

Yet, we see QB busts all the time. Hmmm.
How many of those QB's played in a spread offense vs. a pro style offense?
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Because franchises get sucked into positional value thought processes.

They reach for a higher valued position when a better prospect is sitting in front of them.

Typically, when a player is selected above their 'positional' value, they are RARELY a bust.

Yet, we see QB busts all the time. Hmmm.
I nominate this as "Dumbass post of the Day."
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