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Mecca · 02-11-2009, 05:35 AM

Who knew Mike Mayock was a true fan...

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...y/1028585.html

Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Hundreds of players are available in this year’s NFL draft, but the Chiefs will have to investigate only a fraction of them when it comes to their first pick.

NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said only about 10 players are worthy of the Chiefs’ consideration with their top pick, which is third overall.

“There’s probably a total of 10 guys they’ll have to look at and evaluate and then say, ‘OK, here’s our list one, two and three,’ ” Mayock said. “They know they’re getting one of those guys.”

Mayock’s list is heavy on offensive players, which is unfortunate for a team that needs plenty of help on its defensive front seven. It includes quarterbacks Matt Stafford of Georgia and Mark Sanchez of Southern California, wide receivers Michael Crabtree of Texas Tech and Jeremy Maclin of Missouri, running backs Knowshon Moreno of Georgia and Chris Wells of Ohio State and offensive tackles Eugene Monroe of Virginia and Jason Smith of Baylor.

The only defensive players are Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry and Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo.

While the Chiefs are closer to being competitive on offense than defense, they have few positions where they couldn’t use some help. Perhaps the only one is cornerback, where rookies Brandon Carr and Brandon Flowers moved into the lineup last season and looked like part of the solution instead of part of the problem.

Picking third, their highest position since taking Neil Smith with the second pick in 1988, would allow the Chiefs a chance at a long-elusive franchise quarterback. Stafford will likely be selected by Detroit with the first pick, but Sanchez could well be available to the Chiefs.

“The potential franchise quarterback is the most important position on your team,” Mayock said. “If I’m building a franchise, the first thing I’m going to do is (investigate) the quarterback position. This year, the guys you better evaluate are Stafford and Sanchez. I’m not trying to tell you they should take them at (No.) 3. I’m saying they had better understand what they are.

“I wish Sanchez went back (to USC) for another year. He needed another year. He’s a kid that only started 16 games, but he’s got the ability and the toughness and the arm strength and can learn the pro game and be a starter.”

Moreno and Wells are the best of the running backs, and the Chiefs could be in the market for a featured back if they dispose of Larry Johnson, who is unhappy in Kansas City and wants out.

The Chiefs drafted Branden Albert in the first round last year, and he looks like their left tackle for several seasons. That’s why the Chiefs probably wouldn’t seriously consider Monroe or Smith, but it’s not impossible because they could use an upgrade on the right side of their line.

With so many other needs, wide receiver probably won’t be a priority. But faced with the opportunity of grabbing a playmaker like Crabtree or Maclin, could the Chiefs turn it down?

Of all the players on Mayock’s list, Curry might make the most sense for the Chiefs. They didn’t get any reliable play from their linebackers last season and lacked a playmaker after trading Jared Allen.

“I’m a big believer that Aaron Curry might be the safest pick in the entire draft,” Mayock said. “I hate to say that, but when you’re sitting at (No.) 3, the thing you can’t afford to do is make a mistake. Worst-case scenario: He’s got to be a good football player. Aaron Curry is that kind of guy.

“He played (strong side) linebacker in college. He dominated the tight end. But I could very easily see him converting to a 3-4 outside linebacker because he can rush the passer well, he drops in coverage well. He’s a fifth-year kid. He’s mature. I just think he’s the safest guy out there.”

Boy that's how I'd wanna make my picks based on the fear of a bust so I reach for a devalued position brilliant!

Chief Roundup · 02-11-2009, 01:28 PM

Todd McShay just said that the Jets might pick Sanchez at 17 and that he would probably have to set behind Clemens because he is more of a weak armed west coast offense type of a QB.

RUSH · 02-11-2009, 01:29 PM

Todd McShay is reeruned. How this guy has a job at ESPN is beyond me. How can anyone say that Sanchez has weak arm strength. So dumb

Brock · 02-11-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Todd McShay just said that the Jets might pick Sanchez at 17 and that he would probably have to set behind Clemens because he is more of a weak armed west coast offense type of a QB.

My god.

crazycoffey · 02-11-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by StcChief

if the Franchise QB for next 10 years is on the line, you think even as dumb as Detriot and the Lambs are they dont grab QBs ahead of us?
Detriot bad need. Lambs - Bugler isn't the answer.

Bulger was pretty good when he had talented WRs, maybe they go Crabtree....

Tiger's Fan · 02-11-2009, 01:39 PM

Mecca sings the praises of Mayock until he says something he doesn't agree with. Then he's just another basement dwelling draft guru idiot. Oh the irony...

Chief Roundup · 02-11-2009, 01:39 PM

I have seen several mocks that have him going in the middle. I haven't seen as many that has him going in the top 5.

CoMoChief · 02-11-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon

So if you're Pioli/Haley, you're willing to risk your career on Thigpen then?

Personally I'd like to see what Quin Gray could do. People forget about him and he played well when he was in.

I'm not saying that Thigpen is the guy, thing about it is we don't know because he's only played 3/4 of a season.

People need to realize that this team is in this position because of many years of past failures from the front office as well as the coaching staffs inability to eye good talent. We've gone the FA route for our QB's because it was the "safe" thing to do.

I just dont think this is the year to select a QB high in the draft. But if we are I would choose Stafford over Sanchez because of Stafford's playing experience he has, he's played against better opponents etc.

The one and only thing we cant do at the #3 pick is to **** it up.

milkman · 02-11-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Personally I'd like to see what Quin Gray could do. People forget about him and he played well when he was in.

I'm not saying that Thigpen is the guy, thing about it is we don't know because he's only played 3/4 of a season.

People need to realize that this team is in this position because of many years of past failures from the front office as well as the coaching staffs inability to eye good talent. We've gone the FA route for our QB's because it was the "safe" thing to do.

I just dont think this is the year to select a QB high in the draft. But if we are I would choose Stafford over Sanchez because of Stafford's playing experience he has, he's played against better opponents etc.

The one and only thing we cant do at the #3 pick is to **** it up.

On the one hand you critisize the Chiefs for doing the safe thing, while in the very same post tell us that we can not afford to take a risk.

CoMoChief · 02-11-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

There are only a handfull of people that would/are arguing against giving Thigpen the chance to improve and compete for the job.

But to go into next season with him as the only QBoTF propsect would be sheer stupidity.

I'm fine with drafting a QB, just not at the #3 pick, if Pioli has shown us anything with his track record, its the ability to eye QB talent in the late rounds.

And if in the future if theres a QB worth taking that high then you do what you need to, to draft him. But IMO at the #3 pick you don't take risks with it. Sanchez IMO is a risk pick.

**DeezNutz** · 02-11-2009, 01:59 PM

Was there a Gray spotting?

Damn. Looks like our QB situation is set. Thigpen, Gray, Croyle. We cool.

**DeezNutz** · 02-11-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

On the one hand you critisize the Chiefs for doing the safe thing, while in the very same post tell us that we can not afford to take a risk.

Is that what followed the Gray reference?

Congrats on dieseling through it!

CoMoChief · 02-11-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

On the one hand you critisize the Chiefs for doing the safe thing, while in the very same post tell us that we can not afford to take a risk.

There are times to make a risk pick........#3 overall pick in the draft is NOT where to take that risk.

I critisize the Chiefs for NEVER making the decision to draft and develope a QBOTF. This is NOT the year to take a QB high in the draft IMO.

This is a draft where there arent very many "superstars" in the first 10 picks. There aren't great players, but there are good solid players. Its gonna be interesting to say the least to watch where players will go.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-11-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

There are times to make a risk pick........#3 overall pick in the draft is NOT where to take that risk.

I critisize the Chiefs for NEVER making the decision to draft and develope a QBOTF. This is NOT the year to take a QB high in the draft IMO.

This is a draft where there arent very many "superstars" in the first 10 picks. There aren't great players, but there are good solid players. Its gonna be interesting to say the least to watch where players will go.

read this post, push the "1/x" button on your calculator, and you have your answer as to what the Chiefs should do.

Brock · 02-11-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

There are times to make a risk pick........#3 overall pick in the draft is NOT where to take that risk.

I critisize the Chiefs for NEVER making the decision to draft and develope a QBOTF. This is NOT the year to take a QB high in the draft IMO.

This is a draft where there arent very many "superstars" in the first 10 picks. There aren't great players, but there are good solid players. Its gonna be interesting to say the least to watch where players will go.

There have been many years where you should not take a QB high. This year isn't one of them.

**The Franchise** · 02-11-2009, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I'm fine with drafting a QB, just not at the #3 pick, if Pioli has shown us anything with his track record, its the ability to eye QB talent in the late rounds.

And if in the future if theres a QB worth taking that high then you do what you need to, to draft him. But IMO at the #3 pick you don't take risks with it. Sanchez IMO is a risk pick.

STOP WITH THIS GOD DAMN ARGUMENT!!!!!! Grabbing Brady in the 6th round was a ****ING ANOMALY.

If he has such a talent at grabbing QBs in the late rounds.....then why aren't these guys starting QBs?

Rohan Davey - 4th round - 2002
Kliff Kingsbury - 6th round - 2003

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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-742950	Teicher:Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates Who knew Mike Mayock was a true fan... http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...y/1028585.html Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Hundreds of players are available in this year’s NFL draft, but the Chiefs will have to investigate only a fraction of them when it comes to their first pick. NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said only about 10 players are worthy of the Chiefs’ consideration with their top pick, which is third overall. “There’s probably a total of 10 guys they’ll have to look at and evaluate and then say, ‘OK, here’s our list one, two and three,’ ” Mayock said. “They know they’re getting one of those guys.” Mayock’s list is heavy on offensive players, which is unfortunate for a team that needs plenty of help on its defensive front seven. It includes quarterbacks Matt Stafford of Georgia and Mark Sanchez of Southern California, wide receivers Michael Crabtree of Texas Tech and Jeremy Maclin of Missouri, running backs Knowshon Moreno of Georgia and Chris Wells of Ohio State and offensive tackles Eugene Monroe of Virginia and Jason Smith of Baylor. The only defensive players are Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry and Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo. While the Chiefs are closer to being competitive on offense than defense, they have few positions where they couldn’t use some help. Perhaps the only one is cornerback, where rookies Brandon Carr and Brandon Flowers moved into the lineup last season and looked like part of the solution instead of part of the problem. Picking third, their highest position since taking Neil Smith with the second pick in 1988, would allow the Chiefs a chance at a long-elusive franchise quarterback. Stafford will likely be selected by Detroit with the first pick, but Sanchez could well be available to the Chiefs. “The potential franchise quarterback is the most important position on your team,” Mayock said. “If I’m building a franchise, the first thing I’m going to do is (investigate) the quarterback position. This year, the guys you better evaluate are Stafford and Sanchez. I’m not trying to tell you they should take them at (No.) 3. I’m saying they had better understand what they are. “I wish Sanchez went back (to USC) for another year. He needed another year. He’s a kid that only started 16 games, but he’s got the ability and the toughness and the arm strength and can learn the pro game and be a starter.” Moreno and Wells are the best of the running backs, and the Chiefs could be in the market for a featured back if they dispose of Larry Johnson, who is unhappy in Kansas City and wants out. The Chiefs drafted Branden Albert in the first round last year, and he looks like their left tackle for several seasons. That’s why the Chiefs probably wouldn’t seriously consider Monroe or Smith, but it’s not impossible because they could use an upgrade on the right side of their line. With so many other needs, wide receiver probably won’t be a priority. But faced with the opportunity of grabbing a playmaker like Crabtree or Maclin, could the Chiefs turn it down? Of all the players on Mayock’s list, Curry might make the most sense for the Chiefs. They didn’t get any reliable play from their linebackers last season and lacked a playmaker after trading Jared Allen. “I’m a big believer that Aaron Curry might be the safest pick in the entire draft,” Mayock said. “I hate to say that, but when you’re sitting at (No.) 3, the thing you can’t afford to do is make a mistake. Worst-case scenario: He’s got to be a good football player. Aaron Curry is that kind of guy. “He played (strong side) linebacker in college. He dominated the tight end. But I could very easily see him converting to a 3-4 outside linebacker because he can rush the passer well, he drops in coverage well. He’s a fifth-year kid. He’s mature. I just think he’s the safest guy out there.” Boy that's how I'd wanna make my picks based on the fear of a bust so I reach for a devalued position brilliant!
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