Chiefs Teicher:Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates - Page 16

Mecca · 02-11-2009, 05:35 AM

Who knew Mike Mayock was a true fan...

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...y/1028585.html

Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Hundreds of players are available in this year’s NFL draft, but the Chiefs will have to investigate only a fraction of them when it comes to their first pick.

NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said only about 10 players are worthy of the Chiefs’ consideration with their top pick, which is third overall.

“There’s probably a total of 10 guys they’ll have to look at and evaluate and then say, ‘OK, here’s our list one, two and three,’ ” Mayock said. “They know they’re getting one of those guys.”

Mayock’s list is heavy on offensive players, which is unfortunate for a team that needs plenty of help on its defensive front seven. It includes quarterbacks Matt Stafford of Georgia and Mark Sanchez of Southern California, wide receivers Michael Crabtree of Texas Tech and Jeremy Maclin of Missouri, running backs Knowshon Moreno of Georgia and Chris Wells of Ohio State and offensive tackles Eugene Monroe of Virginia and Jason Smith of Baylor.

The only defensive players are Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry and Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo.

While the Chiefs are closer to being competitive on offense than defense, they have few positions where they couldn’t use some help. Perhaps the only one is cornerback, where rookies Brandon Carr and Brandon Flowers moved into the lineup last season and looked like part of the solution instead of part of the problem.

Picking third, their highest position since taking Neil Smith with the second pick in 1988, would allow the Chiefs a chance at a long-elusive franchise quarterback. Stafford will likely be selected by Detroit with the first pick, but Sanchez could well be available to the Chiefs.

“The potential franchise quarterback is the most important position on your team,” Mayock said. “If I’m building a franchise, the first thing I’m going to do is (investigate) the quarterback position. This year, the guys you better evaluate are Stafford and Sanchez. I’m not trying to tell you they should take them at (No.) 3. I’m saying they had better understand what they are.

“I wish Sanchez went back (to USC) for another year. He needed another year. He’s a kid that only started 16 games, but he’s got the ability and the toughness and the arm strength and can learn the pro game and be a starter.”

Moreno and Wells are the best of the running backs, and the Chiefs could be in the market for a featured back if they dispose of Larry Johnson, who is unhappy in Kansas City and wants out.

The Chiefs drafted Branden Albert in the first round last year, and he looks like their left tackle for several seasons. That’s why the Chiefs probably wouldn’t seriously consider Monroe or Smith, but it’s not impossible because they could use an upgrade on the right side of their line.

With so many other needs, wide receiver probably won’t be a priority. But faced with the opportunity of grabbing a playmaker like Crabtree or Maclin, could the Chiefs turn it down?

Of all the players on Mayock’s list, Curry might make the most sense for the Chiefs. They didn’t get any reliable play from their linebackers last season and lacked a playmaker after trading Jared Allen.

“I’m a big believer that Aaron Curry might be the safest pick in the entire draft,” Mayock said. “I hate to say that, but when you’re sitting at (No.) 3, the thing you can’t afford to do is make a mistake. Worst-case scenario: He’s got to be a good football player. Aaron Curry is that kind of guy.

“He played (strong side) linebacker in college. He dominated the tight end. But I could very easily see him converting to a 3-4 outside linebacker because he can rush the passer well, he drops in coverage well. He’s a fifth-year kid. He’s mature. I just think he’s the safest guy out there.”

Boy that's how I'd wanna make my picks based on the fear of a bust so I reach for a devalued position brilliant!

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-11-2009, 05:12 PM

What people don't realize is that Miami was the beneficiary of a joke schedule with a Carl Peterson approach to roster construction. When they go 6-10 next year, people aren't going to be all over their dick.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-11-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What people don't realize is that Miami was the beneficiary of a joke schedule with a Carl Peterson approach to roster construction. When they go 6-10 next year, people aren't going to be all over their dick.

That's one way to say exactly what I just said.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-11-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

If I have the choice between a fast turnaround like Miami, who has no structure in place to maintain that W/L record and progressively go deeper in the playoffs, or be a team that is built specifically to win a championship, then continue to compete for a championship, I'll take the latter.

Of course. That said, if they end up back in the playoffs again it's going to raise some eyebrows and some questions.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-11-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What people don't realize is that Miami was the beneficiary of a joke schedule with a Carl Peterson approach to roster construction. When they go 6-10 next year, people aren't going to be all over their dick.

I hear the rustling of the leaves on the ol' Piss-Elm tree as the breeze begins to blow...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-11-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Of course. That said, if they end up back in the playoffs again it's going to raise some eyebrows and some questions.

It's only going to raise eyebrows if they not only get into the playoffs, but actually win a game or two.

Which is not going to happen.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-11-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It's only going to raise eyebrows if they not only get into the playoffs, but actually win a game or two.

Which is not going to happen.

I'm not trying to defend "the Miami way", but can you, after this season, look across the NFL and show me a lock on the Championship games for both divisions next year?

I sure as **** can't.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-11-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

I'm not trying to defend "the Miami way", but can you, after this season, look across the NFL and show me a lock on the Championship games for both divisions next year?

I sure as **** can't.

A lock?

Of course not.

But there are teams that barring serious injuries have set themselves up to be in the hunt EVERY year.

And that's the goal.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-11-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

A lock?

Of course not.

But there are teams that barring serious injuries have set themselves up to be in the hunt EVERY year.

And that's the goal.

True dat! It's gonna' be nice to see the roster being cycled in a professional way for a change. The best example I can think of is Ty Law. Under the old regime, Pioli sends him packing and good ol' Carl is right there like a dick-buzzard to pick him up.

Now the Chief's have the guy who knows how to prune the tree!

WOO WOO!!!!

RedThat · 02-11-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

If I have the choice between a fast turnaround like Miami, who has no structure in place to maintain that W/L record and progressively go deeper in the playoffs, or be a team that is built specifically to win a championship, then continue to compete for a championship, I'll take the latter.

You don't think Miami can get any better? Your post pretty much says that.

You don't think there is room for improvement? there is always room for improvement for ANY football team.

There is always room to find certain structures/pieces in place or I should key components to building your team and making it stronger. they CAN get better Regardless of their record or situation on their team, provided that they have excellent people that work in their pro personnel department who do a good job in evaluation and scouting.

so don't count out the fact that they can't compete and be a better team because you never know.

bringbackmarty · 02-11-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Yeah, I'm laughing, and you're kicking your feet in tantrum. Why not just say, you have your opinion and I have mine and leave it at that? Instead, you have generated an unrealistic opinion of yourself that you feel others share. You think you have to change the opinion of the rest that dont agree with you. 500 posts in the last 2 days prove that.

You really dont carry that type of credibility. Even if you did, you're still expected not to act like a child about it.

You have your opinion, I have mine and we'll just leave it at that.

Holy crap, 500 in two days? I don't even average 500 a year.

Wake up and smell the pussy Mecca, it ain't getting any younger or fresher.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-11-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

You don't think Miami can get any better? Your post pretty much says that.

You don't think there is room for improvement? there is always room for improvement for ANY football team.

There is always room to find certain structures/pieces in place or I should key components to building your team and making it stronger. they CAN get better Regardless of their record or situation on their team, provided that they have excellent people that work in their pro personnel department who do a good job in evaluation and scouting.

so don't count out the fact that they can't compete and be a better team because you never know.

Passed on Brady Quinn to take Ted Ginn. Epic Fail.

Passed on Matt Ryan to take Jake Long. Epic Fail.

Forgive me for not trusting in that department.

Taking the Carl Peterson approach will get them exactly what it got Carl.

Fired.

Mecca · 02-11-2009, 07:48 PM

Like I said CoMoChief hurts my brain..

And Frankie I honestly have no idea what Mayocks obsession with Curry is, he will say a guy with 2 sacks is an outstanding rusher which I really don't understand.

melbar · 02-11-2009, 08:06 PM

Why is it in the past reaching 2-3 spots for a player has been a sin, but now that its a QB a couple of people like a 10-15 slot reach is no big deal?

Mecca · 02-11-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

Why is it in the past reaching 2-3 spots for a player has been a sin, but now that its a QB a couple of people like a 10-15 slot reach is no big deal?

You do realize that Sanchez is now being touted as a top 10 pick by several respected draft people...

Chief Roundup · 02-11-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Taking the Carl Peterson approach will get them exactly what it got Carl.

Fired.

Hmmm Carl got 20 years as a GM 10 years of which we were dominate football team.

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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-712950	Teicher:Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates Who knew Mike Mayock was a true fan... http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...y/1028585.html Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Hundreds of players are available in this year’s NFL draft, but the Chiefs will have to investigate only a fraction of them when it comes to their first pick. NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said only about 10 players are worthy of the Chiefs’ consideration with their top pick, which is third overall. “There’s probably a total of 10 guys they’ll have to look at and evaluate and then say, ‘OK, here’s our list one, two and three,’ ” Mayock said. “They know they’re getting one of those guys.” Mayock’s list is heavy on offensive players, which is unfortunate for a team that needs plenty of help on its defensive front seven. It includes quarterbacks Matt Stafford of Georgia and Mark Sanchez of Southern California, wide receivers Michael Crabtree of Texas Tech and Jeremy Maclin of Missouri, running backs Knowshon Moreno of Georgia and Chris Wells of Ohio State and offensive tackles Eugene Monroe of Virginia and Jason Smith of Baylor. The only defensive players are Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry and Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo. While the Chiefs are closer to being competitive on offense than defense, they have few positions where they couldn’t use some help. Perhaps the only one is cornerback, where rookies Brandon Carr and Brandon Flowers moved into the lineup last season and looked like part of the solution instead of part of the problem. Picking third, their highest position since taking Neil Smith with the second pick in 1988, would allow the Chiefs a chance at a long-elusive franchise quarterback. Stafford will likely be selected by Detroit with the first pick, but Sanchez could well be available to the Chiefs. “The potential franchise quarterback is the most important position on your team,” Mayock said. “If I’m building a franchise, the first thing I’m going to do is (investigate) the quarterback position. This year, the guys you better evaluate are Stafford and Sanchez. I’m not trying to tell you they should take them at (No.) 3. I’m saying they had better understand what they are. “I wish Sanchez went back (to USC) for another year. He needed another year. He’s a kid that only started 16 games, but he’s got the ability and the toughness and the arm strength and can learn the pro game and be a starter.” Moreno and Wells are the best of the running backs, and the Chiefs could be in the market for a featured back if they dispose of Larry Johnson, who is unhappy in Kansas City and wants out. The Chiefs drafted Branden Albert in the first round last year, and he looks like their left tackle for several seasons. That’s why the Chiefs probably wouldn’t seriously consider Monroe or Smith, but it’s not impossible because they could use an upgrade on the right side of their line. With so many other needs, wide receiver probably won’t be a priority. But faced with the opportunity of grabbing a playmaker like Crabtree or Maclin, could the Chiefs turn it down? Of all the players on Mayock’s list, Curry might make the most sense for the Chiefs. They didn’t get any reliable play from their linebackers last season and lacked a playmaker after trading Jared Allen. “I’m a big believer that Aaron Curry might be the safest pick in the entire draft,” Mayock said. “I hate to say that, but when you’re sitting at (No.) 3, the thing you can’t afford to do is make a mistake. Worst-case scenario: He’s got to be a good football player. Aaron Curry is that kind of guy. “He played (strong side) linebacker in college. He dominated the tight end. But I could very easily see him converting to a 3-4 outside linebacker because he can rush the passer well, he drops in coverage well. He’s a fifth-year kid. He’s mature. I just think he’s the safest guy out there.” Boy that's how I'd wanna make my picks based on the fear of a bust so I reach for a devalued position brilliant!
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