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Old 02-12-2009, 11:37 PM  
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Why does everyone keep saying we don't need a Tackle at #3?
We only have 1 sure-fire long-term answer at tackle on our roster. Ultimately we absolutely need 2 of them.

If we don't think that the QB that falls to us at #3 is worth the #3 pick and the tackle is there... why would anyone suggest that we pass him over? If he's also not worth the #3, that's one thing, but I see people saying we should pass on a tackle because we already have one.

Umm... I want to all-world tackles, please.
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Old 02-14-2009, 09:03 PM   #106
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About Curry - it wouldn't surprise me a bit if the Chiefs take him. He may be the best FOOTBALL PLAYER in the draft, and that's what "the Patriots Way" has been all about. I realize he doesn't have sacks, but that may be due to how he was utilized. It doesn't mean he can't get them. As I pointed out on some other thread, Piolli/Belechick drafted Richard Seymour who had only 1.5 sacks as a senior (which is low, even for a DT, before someone chirps in). Sacks were never part of his package, but the Pats saw a football player there, and drafted him.
The annals of football history are littered with elite teams led by a cover backer.
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Old 02-14-2009, 09:10 PM   #107
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The annals of football history are littered with elite teams led by a cover backer.
Would you take Mike Singletary (19 sacks for his career)?

How about Ray Lewis (33.5 sacks... but over 13 seasons)?
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Old 02-14-2009, 09:29 PM   #108
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Would you take Mike Singletary (19 sacks for his career)?

How about Ray Lewis (33.5 sacks... but over 13 seasons)?
Great example - guys not taken within the first 25 picks.
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Old 02-14-2009, 09:29 PM   #109
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You don't have to buy the argument Dane - you are selling it for me.

The Steelers have won two Super Bowls in the past four years without what people consider a "shutdown cornerback," and have based the focus of their defense on their linebacking corps.
You're a ****ing moron. Seriously. You're a ****ing MORON.

They didn't draft a LB in the top 5. They didn't draft a LB in the 10. They didn't draft a LB in the top 15. They let Joey Porter walk (who's pissed off by the way that he didn't stay in Pittsburgh). Harrison is undrafted, Farrior was an UFRA and Woodley was a late 2nd rounder. If ANYTHING, this says "Don't spend the number 3 overall pick on a linebacker".

JFC.

Oh, there's a few other reasons why they won the Super Bowl in 2005 and 2008: Ben Rothlisberger and Troy Palumalu.

Without EITHER of those guys, they'd be just another football team.
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Old 02-14-2009, 09:33 PM   #110
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Great example - guys not taken within the first 25 picks.
Just like Tom Brady and Kurt Warner and ... - let's not go there, okay?

The point isn't to find diamonds in the rough, it's who's the most likely diamond at #3. I just listed two LBs who were huge impact players even though they weren't pass-rushers.

If Curry projects out to potentially that kind of player on Piolli's board, why should he not take him?
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Just like Tom Brady and Kurt Warner and ... - let's not go there, okay?
This is such a ****ing stupid argument.
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Old 02-14-2009, 09:45 PM   #112
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This is such a ****ing stupid argument.
Your wife beats you, doesn't she? So much anger over nothing...
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Old 02-14-2009, 10:15 PM   #113
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Well Orange is a Bronco fan so of course he wants us to pick Curry he can then laugh at us for overdrafting a overhyped LB after his team did the samething with DJ Williams and hasn't gotten nearly the production for his selection spot.
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Old 02-14-2009, 10:44 PM   #114
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Well Orange is a Bronco fan so of course he wants us to pick Curry he can then laugh at us for overdrafting a overhyped LB after his team did the samething with DJ Williams and hasn't gotten nearly the production for his selection spot.
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Old 02-14-2009, 11:06 PM   #115
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Damn, you're good.
LOL, you don't have any interest in the Chiefs being good so cmon now.
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Old 02-14-2009, 11:07 PM   #116
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LOL, you don't have any interest in the Chiefs being good so cmon now.
No shit its like us dogging Cutler when we all would give our left nut to have him.
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Old 02-14-2009, 11:10 PM   #117
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LOL, you don't have any interest in the Chiefs being good so cmon now.
Strangely enough, I do. They've been my #2 team from back in AFL days.

But let's say you're right and I wish them ill...

Your scenario still doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't I prefer them to draft Sanchez - which I've said would be a mistake - then have him suck so I can laugh at you guys and say "I told you so" for the next three years?

As it is, if the Chiefs draft Curry, I have to hope he works out so I don't have egg on my face.
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Strangely enough, I do. They've been my #2 team from back in AFL days.

But let's say you're right and I wish them ill...

Your scenario still doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't I prefer them to draft Sanchez - which I've said would be a mistake - then have him suck so I can laugh at you guys and say "I told you so" for the next three years?
Ok let me ask you this question..

Why would you draft Curry 3 when that pick would mean you'd have to pay him more than you could get Dansby for in FA, hell if you take Curry 3 you might be able to get Dansby and Leroy Hill cheaper combined.
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Old 02-14-2009, 11:16 PM   #119
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Ok let me ask you this question..

Why would you draft Curry 3 when that pick would mean you'd have to pay him more than you could get Dansby for in FA, hell if you take Curry 3 you might be able to get Dansby and Leroy Hill cheaper combined.
First, I'm not that high on Curry personally, but he IS the one guy everyone says is a can't miss prospect in this draft, so like I said above a couple pages, it wouldn't surprise me to see the Chiefs draft him.

Second, I don't think Dansby gets past the Broncos.

[edit] to save you having to dig back, I think the Chiefs will (and should*) take a DL.

*unless Stafford is there, but I don't see any way that happens.
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You're a ****ing moron. Seriously. You're a ****ing MORON.

They didn't draft a LB in the top 5. They didn't draft a LB in the 10. They didn't draft a LB in the top 15. They let Joey Porter walk (who's pissed off by the way that he didn't stay in Pittsburgh). Harrison is undrafted, Farrior was an UFRA and Woodley was a late 2nd rounder. If ANYTHING, this says "Don't spend the number 3 overall pick on a linebacker".

JFC.

Oh, there's a few other reasons why they won the Super Bowl in 2005 and 2008: Ben Rothlisberger and Troy Palumalu.

Without EITHER of those guys, they'd be just another football team.
Oh, I'm sorry. Weren't you the dumbass touting the Steelers lack of defensive backs, specifically cornerbacks as to a primary reason why a team has to value a cornerback in the top three? Because they have won a Super Bowl two of the past four years? And they have a good quarterback? And that they have drafted good linebackers? And that their cornerback position has been de-valued because of said good linebackers?

Dumbass.

Seriously.

Read what you wrote.

I know it's Valentines, and you are sitting at home, alone, but there is no reason for you to get all pissy about stupid shit you have already penned.
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