Chiefs Chiefs Going 3-4 -Adam Shefters Blog - Page 2

philfree · 02-18-2009, 09:59 AM

Posted: Adam Schefter | Adam Schefter | Tags: Glenn Dorsey, Kansas City Chiefs

Kansas City announced its coaching staff this week. What it didn’t announce is that the Chiefs are planning to switch to a 3-4 defense.

Under the guidance of new defensive coaches Clancy Pendergast and Gary Gibbs, the Chiefs are turning to the defense that has done so well for Pittsburgh and is back in vogue in the NFL. The Chiefs are going 3-4.

Now Kansas City is going to have to tailor its personnel accordingly. But what is most intriguing and mysterious about it is where last year’s first-round pick, defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey, fits in. Dorsey might not be stout enough to play nose tackle in a 3-4, and he might not be big enough to play end in that style of defense.

One year after becoming Kansas City’s top pick, there now are questions about Dorsey’s role.

But the changes now are coming fast and furious in Kansas City, mainly on defense.

Discuss

PhilFree

PhillyChiefFan · 02-18-2009, 10:14 AM

BJ Raji here we come!

I keed, I keed.

Sully · 02-18-2009, 10:15 AM

This is great news.
And I can now realistically see Raji being the guy.

DaWolf · 02-18-2009, 10:16 AM

I think this makes it easier to swallow the defensive hires, especially Gibbs who seems more suited to a 3-4 but ended up having to institute a 4-3 in NO I believe...

missinDThomas · 02-18-2009, 10:16 AM

Here is news from the Senior Bowl

In the first two days of practice, no player has been more dominant defensively than B.J. Raji, the 6'2" 335 pound defensive tackle out of Boston College. Not only has he dominated in the one-on-one drills against the best centers in the draft, he has also been impressive in the individual position drills. Raji has shown excellent upper body strength, as well as quick feet for his size.

He has a knack for busting through the line and creating havoc in the backfield, and if he continues the pace he is on, he will cement his status as a top 15 pick in the draft.

RINGLEADER · 02-18-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae

Hali as a rush backer or an end?

Hali is a fraud.

missinDThomas · 02-18-2009, 10:17 AM

who doesn't like Casey Hampton?????

B.J. Raji's Scouting Report
By Matt McGuire

Strengths: Elite size, bulk, and strength to play defensive tackle in the NFL and hold up against the bigger offensive linemen ... Complete wall in the middle of the defensive line against the run ... Somewhat athletic with fluid hips ... End-to-end defender who can make plays outside of the phone booth ... Best pass rush move is the bull rush ... Very strong hands, occasionally manhandles opponents ... Tough and plays through pain ... Solid stamina despite his size ... Able to play the highly valuable 3-4 nose tackle/zero technique.

Weaknesses: Outside of the bull rush, Raji does not have much of a pass rush repertoire ... Does not consistently dominate as much as you want him to as a pass rusher ... Has a tendency to get too high ... Misses easy tackles ... Not much experience.

Summary: Raji is a very talented player with high upside, but his lack of experience worries me. If Gerald McCoy does not declare, Raji is likely the first defensive tackle off the board. Raji was suspended for the 2007 season for academic reasons; however, it was not a GPA issue rather it being with not earning enough credits. This will not hurt his draft status.

Player Comparison: Casey Hampton. Hampton might generate more sacks if he were in a 4-3 system rather than taking on two gaps. Raji and Hampton have a similar physical presence on the line of scrimmage, especially against the run.

crazycoffey · 02-18-2009, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae

Hali as a rush backer or an end?

He'd have to be a rush backer, but that means he'd have to learn to drop into coverage some plays too, I have no idea what to think about that. He's athletic, sure - so maybe he makes the transition. But he's been losing value lately, either from scheme or personal play ability, on the end in a 4-3, so I gotta think they try it, or cut him.

Chiefnj2 · 02-18-2009, 10:18 AM

Excellent.

Opens up the draft choices in the first a little. Raji, Curry and Brown (if they have good workouts) have shots.

missinDThomas · 02-18-2009, 10:20 AM

Pioli and most smart football people said/say that you build a great football team from the inside out, start with the trenches

**The Franchise** · 02-18-2009, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae

Hali as a rush backer or an end?

No. The switch to the 3-4 pretty much seals Hali's fate. He's too slow to be a rush backer and not big enough to play DE.

If anything....I can see either of these FAs coming into town.

Chris Canty DE
Igor Olshansky DE

**Buck** · 02-18-2009, 10:20 AM

Switching to the 3-4 eh?

Welcome to the Dark Side.

missinDThomas · 02-18-2009, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

No. The switch to the 3-4 pretty much seals Hali's fate. He's too slow to be a rush backer and not big enough to play DE.

If anything....I can see either of these FAs coming into town.

Chris Canty DE
Igor Olshansky DE

agreed....Hali has no place in 3-4

Molitoth · 02-18-2009, 10:21 AM

BYE BYE HALI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

missinDThomas · 02-18-2009, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding

Switching to the 3-4 eh?

Welcome to the Dark Side.

I love it becaus eyou can change from the 30 to 40 fronts so easy.

Casey Weeeeegman was on Sirius radio yesterday talking about how hard the 3-4 multi fron is on a Center

**The Bad Guy** · 02-18-2009, 10:23 AM

There is no way in hell the Chiefs tie up huge money into another DT with the 3rd pick.

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missinDThomas Nobody fucks with the Jesus! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wichita Falls, TX Casino cash: $10004900	who doesn't like Casey Hampton????? B.J. Raji's Scouting Report By Matt McGuire Strengths: Elite size, bulk, and strength to play defensive tackle in the NFL and hold up against the bigger offensive linemen ... Complete wall in the middle of the defensive line against the run ... Somewhat athletic with fluid hips ... End-to-end defender who can make plays outside of the phone booth ... Best pass rush move is the bull rush ... Very strong hands, occasionally manhandles opponents ... Tough and plays through pain ... Solid stamina despite his size ... Able to play the highly valuable 3-4 nose tackle/zero technique. Weaknesses: Outside of the bull rush, Raji does not have much of a pass rush repertoire ... Does not consistently dominate as much as you want him to as a pass rusher ... Has a tendency to get too high ... Misses easy tackles ... Not much experience. Summary: Raji is a very talented player with high upside, but his lack of experience worries me. If Gerald McCoy does not declare, Raji is likely the first defensive tackle off the board. Raji was suspended for the 2007 season for academic reasons; however, it was not a GPA issue rather it being with not earning enough credits. This will not hurt his draft status. Player Comparison: Casey Hampton. Hampton might generate more sacks if he were in a 4-3 system rather than taking on two gaps. Raji and Hampton have a similar physical presence on the line of scrimmage, especially against the run.
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