Chiefs Going 3-4 -Adam Shefters Blog

[philfree]

Posted: Adam Schefter | Adam Schefter | Tags: Glenn Dorsey, Kansas City Chiefs

Kansas City announced its coaching staff this week. What it didn’t announce is that the Chiefs are planning to switch to a 3-4 defense.

Under the guidance of new defensive coaches Clancy Pendergast and Gary Gibbs, the Chiefs are turning to the defense that has done so well for Pittsburgh and is back in vogue in the NFL. The Chiefs are going 3-4.

Now Kansas City is going to have to tailor its personnel accordingly. But what is most intriguing and mysterious about it is where last year’s first-round pick, defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey, fits in. Dorsey might not be stout enough to play nose tackle in a 3-4, and he might not be big enough to play end in that style of defense.

One year after becoming Kansas City’s top pick, there now are questions about Dorsey’s role.

But the changes now are coming fast and furious in Kansas City, mainly on defense.



Discuss

PhilFree

[EyePod]

What I don't understand is why we would bring in two 4-3 defensive coaches and then switch to the 3-4. Clancy only ran the 3-4 when Whiz made him (he didn't use it under Denny Green), and Gibbs ran the 4-3 in NO. This doesn't make any sense to me.

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by H5N1

seymour doesn't play one position... he shuffles around the line for them (they run a hybrid defense--they'll have the 3-4 look, then the 4-3 look, etc)... as far as warren, I'll let mike reiss tell it for me...



doesn't seem that ridiculous of a contract. certainly not the mountain of cash that we've paid dorsey to become completely obsolete in our 'new defense.'

this is all for naught, though, because 1) this article is purely speculation, and 2) at worse, we'll go to a 4-3 3-4 hybrid defense (like the patriots--we'll run a base 4-3 with a 3-4 look, IMO)

see how that went? base speculation. and I didn't even get paid for it!

Another team that runs this hybrid is the Cardinals.... so there's another reason we would run it. Haley would know the ins and outs as an OC who practiced against it a lot.

[penchief]

Didn't Bill Maas move to a 3-4 DE later in his career? If he can play the position I'm pretty sure Dorsey can, too. Dorsey is a little bigger but they seem comparable in strength and quickness to me.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by EyePod

Another team that runs this hybrid is the Cardinals.... so there's another reason we would run it. Haley would know the ins and outs as an OC who practiced against it a lot.

yep. wouldn't shock me in the least to have at least a 3-4 look to throw the qb off on occaison. as long as it works, they could use the penny defense as far as I'm concerned.

[ChiefsCountry]

I hate the 3-4 but whatever.

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by H5N1

yep. wouldn't shock me in the least to have at least a 3-4 look to throw the qb off on occaison. as long as it works, they could use the penny defense as far as I'm concerned.

I agree. I think we have to run one year at least of the hybrid. We just have too many 4-3 players to not do it.

[Warrior5]

Did Haley or Pioli tell Shefter the Chiefs were going 3-4?

Who is Shefter's source?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by H5N1

seymour doesn't play one position... he shuffles around the line for them (they run a hybrid defense--they'll have the 3-4 look, then the 4-3 look, etc)... as far as warren, I'll let mike reiss tell it for me...



doesn't seem that ridiculous of a contract. certainly not the mountain of cash that we've paid dorsey to become completely obsolete in our 'new defense.'

this is all for naught, though, because 1) this article is purely speculation, and 2) at worse, we'll go to a 4-3 3-4 hybrid defense (like the patriots--we'll run a base 4-3 with a 3-4 look, IMO)

see how that went? base speculation. and I didn't even get paid for it!

So yes. The Pats DE's make a lot of coin. Thanks!

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

So the very same personnel that recorded a record low in sacks is now going to be magically fixed in the 3-4?

Are you high? No one is this much of a homer.

The talent on this roster is a ****ing joke. The sooner you come to grips with this, the happier you'll be as a fan.

The talent wasn't the problem as much as the inexperience and the lack of direction and identity.

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by Warrior5

Who is Shefter's source?

Dick Curl

[PhillyChiefFan]

Originally Posted by Warrior5

Did Haley or Pioli tell Shefter the Chiefs were going 3-4?

Who is Shefter's source?

I wouldn't be surprised if it weren't true. Not saying it isn't but...

KC reporters/bloggers are grasping at straws and if someone in the front office sneezes its news

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

So yes. The Pats DE's make a lot of coin. Thanks!

let's see.... seymour isn't ONLY a DE in their system, so it's hard to pigeonhole him and say 'HE'S A DE AND HE MAKES A LOT OF MONEY'... he gets paid for his versatility (he's a badass). they gave warren a 7 million dollar signing bonus.

check me on this... dorsey got basically a 22 million dollar signing bonus. 50 million total. a few years ago, seymour signed a 4 year 30 million dollar contract, and with signing bonuses being what they were a few years ago, he likely got about ten million dollars. so--I'm not sure of the math, but...

10+7=17 million dollars in signing bonus money for TWO 3-4 DEs (TWO OF THE BEST 3-4 DEs IN THE GAME), but we just gave 22 million to a guy who never played 3-4 in his life, and doens't really seem to fit.

are you ****ing reeruned?

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by milkman

Everyone said I was wrong, that he'd be fine there.
.

Exaggerate much?

Anyone with half a brain knew that Hali doesn't have a very good first step and wasn't suited for RDE. Anyone with a half a brain knew that Boone wasn't going to make a good LDE and that the addition of Dorsey wasn't going to offset the departure of Allen.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by H5N1

let's see.... seymour isn't ONLY a DE in their system, so it's hard to pigeonhole him and say 'HE'S A DE AND HE MAKES A LOT OF MONEY'... he gets paid for his versatility (he's a badass). they gave warren a 7 million dollar signing bonus.

check me on this... dorsey got basically a 22 million dollar signing bonus. 50 million total. a few years ago, seymour signed a 4 year 30 million dollar contract, and with signing bonuses being what they were a few years ago, he likely got about ten million dollars. so--I'm not sure of the math, but...

10+7=17 million dollars in signing bonus money for TWO 3-4 DEs (TWO OF THE BEST 3-4 DEs IN THE GAME), but we just gave 22 million to a guy who never played 3-4 in his life, and doens't really seem to fit.

are you ****ing reeruned?

Are you going to include their rookie contracts as well? They were both high 1st rounders. I'm not saying Dorsey is worth what he makes, but I'm not sure any top 5 pick is coming straight out of college. The Pats invested money and 1st rounders on that position, so I wouldn't be surprised if we do that same.

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by H5N1

let's see.... seymour isn't ONLY a DE in their system, so it's hard to pigeonhole him and say 'HE'S A DE AND HE MAKES A LOT OF MONEY'... he gets paid for his versatility (he's a badass). they gave warren a 7 million dollar signing bonus.

check me on this... dorsey got basically a 22 million dollar signing bonus. 50 million total. a few years ago, seymour signed a 4 year 30 million dollar contract, and with signing bonuses being what they were a few years ago, he likely got about ten million dollars. so--I'm not sure of the math, but...

10+7=17 million dollars in signing bonus money for TWO 3-4 DEs (TWO OF THE BEST 3-4 DEs IN THE GAME), but we just gave 22 million to a guy who never played 3-4 in his life, and doens't really seem to fit.

are you ****ing reeruned?

I agree. I don't think Dorsey will fit well in the 3-4. The stuff about him being able to was from shitty sources. I didn't see anything like that from the major football sources, just some random blogs.